Nadir Shah is not included in the list of Iranian monarchy nor in that of the Safivids Dynasty. Can anyone tell why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.46.248.220 (talk • contribs) 2003-08-19T11:11:23
because actually he did not have any relation to royal family. he was just a turkic nomad from poor family. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.53.52.13 (talk • contribs) 2005-10-19T04:15:53
In most historical works, Nadir Shah is included in the list of monarchs. If he isn't it is just a mistake (I don't know what books the person who asked the original question is reading). There is not a King or Emperor in history that didn't at some point come from humble beginnings. It is just a question of when. Nadir's parents were members of the Afsharid tribe. The Afsharid tribe was one of the many powerful nomadic tribes that were semi-autonomous in Iran at that time. The Afsharids were of Turkomen origin and moved to Azerbaijan as a result of the MOngol invasions in the 13th century. They were partially moved back to Khorasan by the Safavids in the 17th century, who doubted their loyalty (they spoke Turkish, and as such were potential allies to the Ottomans). This was a common practice amongst dynasties in Iran's history. Nadir's family was part of those that were moved back to Khorasan. Exactly how poor a family he was from is not entirely clear, but the fact that Nader had a grandfather leads historians to believe that his family, although shepherds, were not entirely without means. Nearly all Iranian kings, other than the Pahlavis, came from Tribes or Clans, that provided the initial base of power and support. Lastly, Nadir Shah Afshar was not a Safavid, as his full name makes clear. His rule, however, proved to be short lived although he is known in history as the last great conqueror from Asia. His military accomplishments were phenomenal in the short time of his reign, but like most great generals, his governmental administration was abysmal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.119.47 (talk • contribs) 2005-12-15T16:12:43
You state, "Nadir Shah is not included in the list of Iranian monarchy nor in that of the Safivids Dynasty. Can anyone tell why?". There is a very simple explanation to the second part of your question. The second part of the question, as I interpret it, is saying: why isn't Nader Shah included in the Safavid Dynasty? The answer is he is part of the Afsharid Dynasty. He is not part of the Safavid Dynasty. The Afsharid Dynasty included these kings: Nader Shah, Ali Gholi, Ebrahim, Shahrokh. I think you know this since you state, "Nadir Shah Afshar was not a Safavid". Do you care to explain why you think he should be included in the Safavid Dynasty? Agha Nader 08:10, 7 January 2007 (UTC)Agha Nader