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Q: Why is the attack not marked as a "Hamas victory" or "Israeli victory"?

A: After a long discussion involving over 40 editors, it was decided that the result of the attack has no consensus. In the discussion, there was a split consensus for the attack being a "Hamas victory" and for the attack's result being "Inconclusive".

This article was nominated for deletion on 13 October 2023. The result of the discussion was keep.

Yakhini massacre was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 23 November 2023 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Ein HaShlosha massacre was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 10 December 2023 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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This article has been mentioned by multiple media organizations:

Steve Apfel (June 28, 2024). "A legend for Jewish advocacy fell into a hole it dug for itself". Israel National News. On its page for the October 7 attacks Wiki respects the removal from its charter of, "antisemitic language and shifting focus from Jews to Zionists."
Benjamin Hart (December 2, 2024). "Jimmy Wales on Why Wikipedia Is Still So Good". Intelligencer. AI has gotten to be quite good at multiple languages, and what I did use it for is to compare pages in English, Hebrew, and Arabic about the October 7 Hamas attack. That was super-interesting, and I found it very useful. It basically said the English one is very, very neutral and the others tend to take one side or the other.

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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

Discussions:

Article redirected before RM was completed, 7 October 2023, from Operation Al-Aqsa Flood to October 2023 Gaza-Israel clashes, see discussion.
Moved, 20 November 2023, from 2023 Hamas attack on Israel to 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel, see discussion.
Not moved, 26 January 2024, from 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel to 7 October attacks, see discussion.
Moved, 15 June 2024, from 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel to 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel, see discussion.
Not moved, 11 October 2024, to 7 October attacks, see discussion.
Moved, 22 December 2024, from 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel to October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, see discussion.
Not moved, 24 January 2025, from October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel to October 7 Hamas-led Genocide on Israel, see discussion.

Section sizes

Section size for October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel (48 sections)
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(Top)	33,161	33,161
Name	6,828	6,828
Background	9,767	32,509
Warnings	1,551	1,551
Events leading to the attack	7,524	7,524
Operational planning	8,269	8,269
Israeli intelligence failure	5,398	5,398
Attacks	2,582	119,242
Participating and supporting organizations	4,211	4,211
Rocket fire	4,444	4,444
Incursions into southern Israel	60,090	98,242
Nova music festival	8,752	8,752
Kfar Aza	1,449	1,449
Be'eri	8,219	8,219
Yakhini	4,332	4,332
Ein HaShlosha	5,163	5,163
Psyduck music festival	1,186	1,186
Re'im military base	3,004	3,004
Nir Am	2,134	2,134
Ofakim	3,091	3,091
Rahat	822	822
Failed plans	1,417	1,417
Hostages taken	8,346	8,346
Casualties	27,567	36,939
Identification of remains	2,559	2,559
Revision of casualty numbers	6,813	6,813
Reported atrocities	97	55,036
Sexual violence	22,678	22,678
Torture and mutilation	21,552	21,552
Unsubstantiated reports of beheaded babies and children	9,731	9,731
Use of hostages as human shields	978	978
Israeli counterattack	4,668	17,410
Friendly fire and use of the Hannibal Directive	12,742	12,742
Reactions	16	41,689
Allegations of genocide	3,213	3,213
Palestinian response	30	13,585
Hamas	6,271	6,271
Palestinian Authority	4,099	4,099
Palestinian public opinion	3,185	3,185
Israeli response	6,377	15,211
Capture and interrogation of militants	7,016	7,016
Arab Israelis	1,818	1,818
International	9,664	9,664
See also	313	313
Notes	798	798
References	30	30
Further reading	452	452
External links	1,475	1,475
Total	345,882	345,882

Reference ideas for October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel

The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:

"Detailed findings on attacks carried out on and after 7 October 2023 in Israel" (PDF). OHCHR Human Rights Council: Fifty-sixth session. United Nations. Retrieved 20 August 2024.
Rubin, Shira; Dadouch, Sarah; Hendrix, Steve (October 16, 2023). "How Hamas's carefully planned Israel attack devolved into a chaotic rampage". The Washington Post. Archived from the original on October 16, 2023. Retrieved October 17, 2023.
See #Hamas Document below. (but this is actually a statement from Abbas' PA) https://twitter.com/pmofa/status/1710630801379922370

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