Fails WP:NCORP. All sources about this company are either routine, not independent from the subject (such as interviews where employees talk about the company), and sometimes they are just blatant ads. Badbluebus (talk) 23:43, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article about a film, not properly sourced as passing WP:NFILM. As always, films are not automatically notable enough for Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass WP:GNG on third-party coverage about them in media -- film reviews, evidence of noteworthy film awards, production coverage, that sort of thing. But the only footnotes here are an article about the director's death which briefly namechecks this film without being about the film in any non-trivial sense (and doesn't even support the statement about the film's postproduction that it's footnoting), a press release from the film's own production studio, and a short blurb that isn't substantive enough to get the film over GNG all by itself. Further, even though the film was released in 2017 according to IMDB and the dating of the footnotes agrees with that, the creator wrote about this as if it were an "upcoming" film slated for release in 2024 -- and although I've corrected that nonsense already, there are other statements here (some completely unsourced, and the postproduction claim that isn't supported by the director's obituary) that may also be in question if they can't be properly verified. (I've also had to remove two other footnotes that had nothing to do with this film at all, and were present solely to falsely assert, because of the misrepresented release date, that it would be a "posthumous" work for cast and crew who died after 2017.) As most coverage would likely be in Spanish, and the film actually came out long enough ago that the very low number of GNG-worthy Google hits might not be the whole story, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with good access to databases of Venezuelan media coverage from the 2010s can find enough solid sourcing to salvage it -- but especially given that the article contained significant falsehoods that just IMDb alone was able to smoke out, it really needs much better sourcing than it's got right now. Bearcat (talk) 23:22, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Added sources about the play, widely described by significant coverage in reliable sources as one if not the most successful vanguard play of its time in Vnz. The article needs cleanup. I didn't even check the film. Much more exists about the play in Sp./En. -Mushy Yank. 05:16, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep based on WP:NEXISTS in a similar vein to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moustafa Matola. I believe in using NEXISTS sparingly, but I think this is a valid use case because 1) We know that the subject accomplished something of note (was a sprint Olympian) in reliable sources, and 2) the subject comes from a place (Malawi) where we have no newspaper archive access from his time period, and there is no access in WP:LIBRARY. Do sources exist? I would say yes, but we have no way of accessing them. Maybe we can reach out to offline sources in Malawi for contemporary coverage, but that process would take weeks at least. --Habst (talk) 15:10, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep based on WP:NEXISTS. If the subject was from an area where we have full digitized newspaper access via WP:LIBRARY and we still found no sources I would endorse deletion. But Matola is an Olympian from Malawi where we have no comprehensive online archive of coverage available. Maybe in five or ten years that will change and we can reopen the discussion.
And no, this rationale can't and shouldn't be used to blindly keep all articles from Malawi – the difference in this case is that we have verifiable information that the subject has accomplished something of note (being among Malawi's first Olympians), the only thing we're lacking is the prose-based coverage to add color. --Habst (talk) 14:01, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@LibStar SPORTCRIT and NOLY are supplementary subject-specific guidelines, meaning that they don't have to be met at all as long as WP:N (meaning NEXISTS which is also on that page) is met. WP:N supersedes the topic-specific guidelines. --Habst (talk) 14:44, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
NEXIST isn't a free pass. In this case, there's a reasonable rationale for why sources exist given the verified information we have about the subject's accomplishments. --Habst (talk) 15:01, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not asking for any free pass, that's not what NEXISTS is. I looked at what's available to me, but I have no way of searching the Malawian newspaper sources that we know would have covered this Olympic athlete in the 1970s. Do you have access to those? --Habst (talk) 15:52, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You obviously searched for sources but couldn't find any. I will happily withdraw this nomination as keep if you can provide evidence of multiple sources. LibStar (talk) 15:56, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How can I provide evidence of sources if we have no access to archives that would have covered the subject? I'll happily change my !vote if you can provide evidence that you've searched a Malawian newspaper archive with coverage from this time period, and not found anything. The issue is those archives aren't accessible on the web. --Habst (talk) 16:10, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All you are saying and speculating is that he could have been covered in Malawian press with no evidence he was covered in a SIGCOV fashion. As an Olympic athlete, you'd might expect some international coverage. LibStar (talk) 16:15, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you that as an Olympian we should expect international coverage to exist. Doing an offline search for this sort of info would take weeks and potentially real world money. An American athlete in a similar position would surely be covered because WP:Newspapers.com has great coverage of U.S. newspapers from the 70s. Where is the similar resource for Malawian newspapers? Until this question can be answered, invoking WP:NEXISTS for the prose-based coverage is valid as long as WP:V is met, which it is (everything on the page is currently cited to a reliable source). --Habst (talk) 18:14, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
delete - i am on my phone so pardon any spelling errors but the prior afd close was garbage and the same valid points apply to this one as well as the current article. This is a run of the mill internet user with 0 in depth, independent, meaningful coverage anywhere.CUPIDICAE❤️22:58, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORTS. This article's only sources (in the Danish Wikipedia) is the club's official website, Google searches only bring up articles with brief mentions of the team. Not to mention, almost nothing has been done to improve the article since it's notability problems was tagged in 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ロドリゲス恭子 (talk • contribs) 21:55, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – None of the sources (including da.wiki) confer notability, and the club does not have any relevant appearance in the top tier. Svartner (talk) 15:55, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Non notable musician - sourced to a combo of passing mentions and black hat SEO. Might be notable one day but that day is not today. CUPIDICAE❤️21:13, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeiatalk20:59, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeiatalk20:58, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I feel he's probably notable. The Arabic article notes that he "excelled" for his club and helped them win the top-tier Iraq championship and he "was among the best Iraqi goalkeepers of the 1980s," which is demonstrated by him being the team's goalkeeper at the Asian Games. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:19, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is a forum but someone there notes "I read an article in one of the electronic newspapers by brother Ali Al-Hasnawi, in which he narrates the history of the [goalkeeper] – The distinguished Iraqi Samir Abdul Redha, the national team goalkeeper in the eighties, and his journey that led him To train Benfica goalkeepers and supervise great goalkeepers such as the German Anka. He worked with Mourinho and Camacho, and before that, the Portuguese coach Vingada described him as 'the best coach.'" It includes a long snippet from the story but it seems it might be Adul-Ridha talking rather than a sportswriter – it does say that it is only a portion of the story though. He seems likely notable to me. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:40, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This blog post about Adbul-Ridha contains photos of in-depth newspaper stories about him. It seems he was well-covered in Portuguese for being the first Iraqi in Portuguese football; he was known under the name "Samir Shaker" there and I found another story on him here. In addition to the Kooora post I mentioned above and the 1995 Al Riyadi newspaper I showed, this should be sufficient to keep given the circumstances (very poor access to the sources of the time). He seems to have been a star Iraqi goalkeeper and among their most prominent goalkeepers in the 1980s. Given the popularity of football in Iraq, it is all but certain he would have been significantly covered in his day. @Svartner:BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:52, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT for not having WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS and WP:RS whereby the sources talk about the subject in depth and length for WP:V. Announcements of competitions and results are considered routine sports reports and can not be used to contribute to notability guidelines requirements. Cassiopeiatalk20:58, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
1. agnaden source is just a photo of the subject and has not indication of significant coverage.
2. foowz source is an interview piece for such it is considered not independent, in addition the foowz has been establish only one year ago as such reliability and fact checking of the source is in doubt.
While writing articles on some of the games listed here, I have been unable to verify almost any of the information contained herein. There appears to be no independent, reliable sources proving the general notability of this TV program. As such, I feel deletion is most appropriate. « Gonzo fan2007(talk) @ 20:42, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:GNG, strip malls typically do not get their own articles.
This mall only has one source, and nothing notable has happened besides the renovation. Not to mention this article's notability has been questioned since 2011. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ロドリゲス恭子 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure how exactly to format the reply, but I think it is notable due to extensive media coverage in the middle east, and a season article was created due to plans that this will be a biannual tournament to accompany the senior men's tournament. Exhibition matches and tournments have wikipedia articles if they are notable, such as Soccer Aid, Sidemen Charity Match, and 2025 NBA All-Star Game amongst many others Alitheboss55 (talk) 20:34, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Added a number of new sources. Naturally the tournament has not started yet so more sources will be added as events occur, but I think there is notable coverage from around the region about this event. Alitheboss55 (talk) 21:29, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV, as most references focus on Lanistar and its FCA issues rather than him. The article also suffers from REFBOMB, creating a false sense of notability. With no in-depth, independent coverage about him, it fails to meet the inclusion criteria. Herinalian (talk) 19:46, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The comment suggesting that Gurhan Kiziloz is not linked to Lanistar and should have separate Wikipedia pages is incorrect and misrepresents the available evidence. Multiple reliable sources clearly establish Kiziloz's integral connection to Lanistar:
Gurhan Kiziloz is unequivocally linked with Lanistar:
Kiziloz founded Lanistar in 2019 and served as its CEO[1].
He was known as "G" by Lanistar staff and owned 93% of the company[2].
Even after stepping down as CEO, Kiziloz remained involved with Lanistar, seeking investors in Dubai[3].
Characterizing coverage of Lanistar's marketing campaigns as merely "fishy" understates the significance of the regulatory and ethical concerns raised by reputable sources:
The UK Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) issued a formal warning about Lanistar, stating it believed the company was "carrying on regulated activities which require authorisation"[4].
The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) ruled against Lanistar for making misleading claims about its product's security[5].
Major publications like Financial News, The Jerusalem Post, and Fintech Finance News have reported extensively on Lanistar's controversial practices and regulatory issues[6][7].
These sources demonstrate that Kiziloz's connection to Lanistar is significant and well-documented, and that the company's practices have faced serious scrutiny from regulatory bodies and respected media outlets. The Wikipedia article should reflect this comprehensive and nuanced coverage from reliable sources. JboothFN (talk) 20:47, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This Wikipedia page appears to be promoting an individual with numerous legal issues. The content includes citations to questionable sources that may be considered fake news. The information presented here seems biased and potentially misleading. It's important for Wikipedia to maintain neutrality and accuracy, which this page currently lacks. This matter should be reviewed by administrators to ensure compliance with Wikipedia's standards and policies. 81.111.96.157 (talk) 00:40, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The content of this Wikipedia page raises significant concerns regarding its objectivity and adherence to Wikipedia's policies. It appears to be promoting an individual who has been involved in multiple legal controversies. Furthermore, the page cites sources of dubious credibility, which may constitute misinformation or fake news. This approach contradicts Wikipedia's core principles of neutral point of view and verifiability. The page's current state potentially violates Wikipedia's guidelines on biographies of living persons and reliable sources. It is recommended that this page undergo thorough review and revision to ensure compliance with Wikipedia's standards and to prevent the spread of potentially misleading information. 81.111.96.157 (talk) 00:42, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:SIGCOV. Most of the references cited in the article revolve around a single tweet he made in the Bangalore vs. Gurgaon debate regarding the better place for tech companies. These sources primarily cover the controversy rather than his personal achievements or sustained impact in his field. Herinalian (talk) 19:35, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Added a few things. Meets WP:NFO at least for 3 reasons: screened more than 5 years after release/part of a retrospective on the history of cinema/ selected for preservation in a national archive. And this is without mentioning the numerous existing references in reliable sources that even a cursory GBooks search can confirm..... -Mushy Yank. 21:30, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the sources used to verify/expand the article are in Polish which understandably didn't come up in an English language BEFORE search. Searching in languages I don't read or speak is simply beyond my skillset. That's the benefit of having an AFD and having other participants contribute with different skills and perspectives.4meter4 (talk) 23:42, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per sourcing found. Now to be fair towards the nominator, I can kind of see where they were likely coming from. If you aren't familiar with searching in a language you don't speak, then finding sourcing can actually be a little bit difficult. A lot of the books were in snippet only view and if you aren't looking at URLs for the .gov, .org, or similar for government and museum type sourcing, all of the foreign language hits can seen kind of overwhelming or even non-usable. Searching in English didn't bring up anything and to be honest, I don't think this ever actually received an official English release. This title may be an unofficial, literal translation, as the hits I did see were either Wikipedia mirrors or seem like they used it as a source.
So I wouldn't give the nominator too hard of a time on this. 4meter4, my main note here would be when in doubt, find someone who speaks the language and ask them to search, particularly with older films like this one. Those can be particularly tricky to find sourcing for, especially as sometimes Google can be finnicky with foreign language results, particularly if you're searching in the US. I've had occasions where I've searched the exact same as other users, but had better results and vice-versa. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。)01:27, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP, cannot find reliable or significant coverage of this organization. I want to note that prior to being converted to an article, it was a valid redirect to Inat, so I am actually voting for this page to redirect back to it (my WP:BOLD revert was challenged). jolielover♥talk18:28, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This article has significantly changed since its AfD nomination. -Mushy Yank. 16:18, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[note: I actually changed the topic of the article while sourcing it! Apologies if that is confusing; the page is now focusing on the feature film and the TV film (same year) is only mentioned in one section))][reply]
Keep. This is one of those situations where the online sourcing is scanty but does point towards there being far more sourcing offline. A search in Croatian (in which I am not even remotely fluent) brings up quite a few hits. Most are in snippet view, but ones like this and this give off the impression that they go into some depth. We'd need someone with access to the book (and fluent in Croatian) to verify this. In this situation it seems like this is one of those situations where sourcing just wasn't uploaded online - something fairly common with pre-internet coverage. The article is likely going to be kept in a fairly stubby state, but the film is likely notable.
Now, an option here is that we could do a further revamp - instead of focusing on either films, we could make the article about the play and include some information about the films. The play is lauded as one of the playwright's most well known works but suffers from a similar issue in that a lot of the sourcing doesn't appear to be online. I think we could merge these all into a single article covering the play and films - that way we have coverage of a notable topic and what we have won't overwhelm the playwright's article with a lot of info on a single play. Mushy Yank - you did a lot of work on the page so I don't want to do this without running it by you first. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。)18:54, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:DRAFTOBJECT prevents me from returning this to draft unilaterally. I am unsure that would be my preferred action now it is in mainspace. Jenkins is presented as a good but WP:ROTM journalist doing his job. Many, most, of the references are his work, but they are not reviews of him nor his work, thus they provide no verification of any putative notability. WP:V is a key tenet of Wikipedia and is not satisfied. As presented and referenced I cannot see a pass of WP:BIO. A WP:HEY outcome would be acceptable. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrentFaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 17:21, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The creating (and main) editor moved this back to draft. I have moved it back to mainspace since it is mid process, and suggested to them that they offer an opinion here to draftily. Should they do so, and assuming that no-one has suggested deletion in the interim, I will withdraw the nomination in favour of moving to draft. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrentFaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:58, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, should that happen with no intervening counter opinion, I am content that this signifies my withdrawal, and any editor in good standing may note that and close the discussion. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrentFaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 13:01, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have move protected the article to discourage another attempt on their end. If someone feels consensus is reached sooner than 7 days, any admin may lift if I'm not online to do so. StarMississippi14:11, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article has been substantially rewritten to clearly demonstrate the subject's notability through multiple independent sources. It now includes national press reviews from The Guardian, The Sunday Times, The Independent, and Radio Times, industry-recognized awards such as the One World Broadcast Trust Award and the Sony Radio Award, and evidence of significant contributions to public debate, including testimony before the House of Lords Select Committee on data protection. Given these factors, the subject meets Wikipedia’s notability criteria for journalists and media figures Frobisher2021 (talk) 13:48, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I see this as an opinion that this be kept, and not draftified.
I am slightly saddened about this. Of the references that I can access, two only point to an award, which might confer notability. The others are simple evidence of Jenkins doing his job, which cannot verify notability. One is a programme listing, which shows that he has a programme, and another does not mention him. I have not changed my view, nor my willingness to accept a request to return this to draft as an outcome of this discussion. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrentFaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:55, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Some citations are intended to verify that Jenkins produced or presented the programmes mentioned. In such cases, a programme listing is a valid source, as it confirms authorship and broadcast history. If there is a specific citation where Jenkins is not mentioned, I would appreciate clarification so it can be corrected.
Regarding notability, multiple citations go beyond listings and are national press reviews from The Guardian, The Times, The Independent, and Radio Times. The consistent critical acclaim over decades from respected critics (e.g., Gillian Reynolds provides strong evidence of notability, as it is not just passing praise, but exemplary recognition, going beyond “run of the mill”. If more evidence of this is required, it can be provided.
Additionally, Jenkins was Deputy Editor of the New Statesman, a major political magazine. His work has been frequently cited in peer-reviewed academic research and journalism studies, including publications like the British Journalism Review, Index on Censorship, and the scholarly book Investigating Corporate Corruption (Taylor & Francis). These citations further demonstrate his impact on journalism and public discourse. A section on this could be added.
Regarding awards, while only two currently have citations, further research is likely to provide more. The fact that industry-recognized awards cannot so far be backed up by citation in itself is not a reason for deletion, especially given the additional press and academic recognition.
Finally, if the objection is based on access to citations, Wikipedia's verifiability policy explicitly allows print sources, even if they are not personally accessible to all editors. Many of these sources are accessible through newspaper archives (e.g., Newspapers.com, The British Library), and all are fully formatted with author, title, and date, allowing verification through standard research methods. Frobisher2021 (talk) 20:30, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I left this for this long in case the creator would agree to draftify, but that is not going to happen. In fact there is little point draftifying what is currently, and likely to remain, a non notable journalist. The problem with the sourcing has been explained by the nom., but to be clear: sources must not just be from reliable sources, they must have significant subject of the page subject (such that the page can be written) and, importantly, they must be independent. Interviews are not independent. Their own work and listsings of their work are not independent. There needs to be independent sources that speak about this journalist, demonstrating notability. We don't have that. So sourcing is lacking. We also have no indication of notability from any of the WP:NJOURNALIST criteria. The discussion of awards would be a criterion under WP:ANYBIO which states, under criterion 1, likely notability if The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times. "Well-known" and "significant" are where this falls down, and that is even supposing those awards are for the journalist (some are) and not for the programme team (as, for instance, here [7] ). So there is no pass of ANYBIO on criterion 1. Even if there were, ANYBIO is only a refutable indication of notability, and the lack of sources that talk about Jenkins is the real reason that we should not be covering this. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 15:47, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well I would agree to draftify but I don't know how. Please take this as my assent. I am puzzled by your comments, which is not to say that I disagree with them but I simply do not understand.
I don't think any of the sources are interviews, so I don't see how that objection applies.
When you say "their own work or listings of their work are not independent" - but surely a listing of a work on a BBC website is sufficient to demonstrate that the work exists and that the subject was producer and/or presenter of it? (Because the listings say so and the BBC is authoritative on this point)
When you say that "There needs to be independent sources that speak about this journalist, demonstrating notability" surely multiple reviews from independent reviewers in the national press, which refer to Jenkins by name, in terms that make it clear that they consider his work to be notable, demonstrate exactly that? Again I am trying to understand, not argue.
On the awards, there are citations for all but two. The Radio Academy (Sony) awards are as significant as they come, and the others are (or were) major industry awards. It is true that broadcast journalism awards are given to programmes and not individuals, but in the case of the one you link to, Jenkins is both presenter and producer, i.e. the entire team. This is true of many of the other ones too. In the case of File on 4, each episode had two journalists (producer and reporter) as the BBC listings show. So the credit would be equally shared. Frobisher2021 (talk) 18:53, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Summary of Why This Article Meets Wikipedia’s Notability Criteria
Although I would accept draftify as a compromise, I believe that the article does in fact meet the notability criteria
Press Coverage: Multiple reviews in The Guardian, The Times, The Independent, Daily Telegraph Radio Times over decades.
Major Industry Award: One programme awarded Sony Radio Academy Award—described as “the Oscars of British radio”; two others nominated.
Parliamentary Impact: His work was cited in a House of Lords Select Committee report.
Academic Recognition: Cited in Investigating Corporate Corruption (Taylor & Francis) and British Journalism Review and many other academic papers.
Senior Editorial Role: Former Deputy Editor of the New Statesman, a leading UK political magazine.
Specialist Awards: Recognized in One World Media Awards, * British Environment & Media Awards, Medical Journalism of the Year awards (twice) which have honoured major BBC and other journalists and which are widely recognised as prestigious.
Frobisher2021 (talk) 10:42, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per WP:HEY. I added sources that demonstrate WP:SIGCOV, the player has relevant spells with several intermediate Brazilian football clubs such as Joinville EC, SER Caxias and Ypiranga FC. Svartner (talk) 14:11, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I added more recent transfer sources, but most of them provide a summary of the player's career in addition to all the relevant information to establish WP:GNG. I don't see any gaps missing. Svartner (talk) 14:59, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I am withdrawing this nomination per the good sources found and added by User:Svartner. @Clariniie: Could you take a further look due to the different state of the article now? 08:50, 6 February 2025 (UTC)C679[reply]
Regardless of whether those describe the person's career or not, transfer sources are considered routine coverage. Social media ones are user-generated and should never be used on Wikipedia. ⋆。˚꒰ঌClara A. Djalim໒꒱˚。⋆11:18, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They are not user-generated. There is a very limited number of people who have access to a club's Instagram profile. However, they are primary sources and do not contribute to notability. Furthermore, some "transfer sources" are in-depth and some (many) are not, no blanket statement can be made about transfer news - e.g. some sources use the transfer news opportunity to go into detail about the player's career, abilities, personality etc. At this point, anyway, the AFD can be closed in 20 hours after the normal elapsed time. Geschichte (talk) 11:10, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. 1. Soccerway: stats N. 2. GloboEsport 1: passing mention N. 3. Futebol Interior: routine transfer announcement nearly identical to the club's press releaseN. 4. GE 2: routine transfer announcement also derived from PR N. 5. Press release from 3, N. 6. Marcou no esporte: reprint of press release, N. 7. GZH: routine interview, little secondary coverage N. 8. GZH: transfer announcement, slightly more material than usual but all of it is shallow stats, not secondary analysis N. JoelleJay (talk) 00:08, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The 8. source provides in-depth coverage of the player's entire career. The others complement practically all other remaining information. Excluding information that goes beyond the player's sporting career, there is nothing missing. Svartner (talk) 03:57, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
None of these sources provide any coverage of him beyond listing which teams he played for and other trivial info from press releases (and the last one is a football club). That is all info we could get from looking at his stats page, thus routine and primary. JoelleJay (talk) 23:27, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As several other users stated, some of the sources indicate significant coverage for GNG. One user stating an opinion does not invalidate other users stating their opinion. FrankAnchor15:06, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I really understand the criticism that there won't be an article dissecting the entire life of a second-tier Brazilian football player, but all the information pertinent to his sporting career is covered by the sources. I think it's a matter of WP:COMMONSENSE. Svartner (talk) 13:06, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just because content is verifiable doesn't mean it warrants its own separate page. Basically nothing here goes beyond what you can find in a stats database. JoelleJay (talk) 19:24, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per references provided by Svatner and others. I reject JoelleJay’s characterization of ref 8 as shallow stats, not secondary analysis as it provides coverage of the subject’s career to that point, beyond simple stats. Some of the remaining sources can be pieced together to get this past the GNG finish line. Per WP:NBIO, if the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability. FrankAnchor15:05, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 8 says Fernando was signed by Caxias in November last year . Before that, he played for Figueirense, Grêmio Barueri, Criciúma, Moto Club, Luverdense, Deportivo Tepic, from Mexico, Itumbiara, Boa Esporte, Joinville, Brasil de Pelotas and Cascavel. This year, he played in 29 matches, 28 of which as a starter. In the Gaucho runner-up position , he played in 12 matches. In the Série D, he played in 17 matches. In fact, the defender was the team captain at various times this season. Literally nothing in there has any depth of coverage; it's all stats one could glean from his transfermarkt profile. Nothing whatsoever useful for a biography. JoelleJay (talk) 21:04, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Frank Anchor is somehow correct. As long as the routine story provides more details about a specific than announcement, it can be used, but multiple sources containing significant coverage are required. ⋆。˚꒰ঌClara A. Djalim໒꒱˚。⋆12:24, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see several sentences with more-than-routine details of Fonseca's career. In addition, the requirement of multiple GNG-required sources can be circumvented by pieceing together information presented in other sources, as specifically allowed by WP:NBIO (see my comment above including relevant excerpt from that guideline). FrankAnchor14:28, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
? Where is that in the guidelines? Merely having additional details does not make something automatically SIGCOV, especially if it's simple prosifying of stats. This also really isn't "more details" than you get in routine coverage of announcements (which is explicitly listed in NOTNEWS). JoelleJay (talk) 18:15, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You left out the rest of the sentence you quoted from NBIO: trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability. None of the other independent sources offer more than passing mentions. JoelleJay (talk) 18:18, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I left that out because it is not relevant here. The info surrounding transfer announcements (which are NOT primary in most cases as they are derived from and are not exact copies of the press release), along with some coverage provided by Svartner add a few sentences here-and-there of non-trivial coverage which compliments Ref 8 which was called out above. FrankAnchor17:20, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is most certainly relevant here... WP:N says It is common for multiple newspapers or journals to publish the same story, sometimes with minor alterations or different headlines, but one story does not constitute multiple works. Several journals simultaneously publishing different articles does not always constitute multiple works, especially when the authors are relying on the same sources, and merely restating the same information. The info in the transfer announcements, in addition to being routine (For example, routine news coverage of announcements, events, sports, or celebrities, while sometimes useful, is not by itself a sufficient basis for inclusion of the subject of that coverage and Moreover, not all coverage in reliable sources constitutes evidence of notability for the purposes of article creation; for example [...] announcements columns [...] are all examples of coverage that may not actually support notability when examined, despite their existence as reliable sources), is coming directly from the press releases. What little there is about him that isn't in PR is trivial. JoelleJay (talk) 18:24, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to Rose-Tu, her mother, because while it might be toosoon for an article, this will preserve the history should she become more notable in the future. I've contested the PROD on her mother, due to academic sources (The Rediscovery of the Wild chapter 6 for starters), but there's plenty of work about her, due to the animal cruelty incident/legal issues/criminal charges & conviction which resulted in a decent about of coverage over a period of 10 years. Yes, the current version is a bit sparse, but it's missing a lot of life details. But anyways, not looking to turn this to an AfD on Rose-Tu. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 21:03, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article PRODded with reason "Non-notable journal. Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources. Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG." Article dePRODded after addition of indexing info. However, none of the added databases are selective in the sense of NJournals. PROD reason still stand, hence: Delete. Randykitty (talk) 14:02, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
CSD is the best option for this album but there isn't a relevant CSD except using "Custom rational" but using that is not appropriate anymore because CSDs A7 and A9 had been used and declined by an admin because they do not apply in the article's circumstance. This album has zero source out there to indicate its notability for an article here. The creator of this article is possibly the owner of the album Mekomo (talk) 13:50, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV. The article was moved to Kefas Brand. The sourcing is all to puffery sources in African media. I can find no actual reviews of any of his performances. The article creator added his name to the main cast of I Woke Up a Vampire with citations, but I am wondering whether this is accurate. I cannot find either him or his character mentioned in plot synopses or independent reviews, and he isn't listed in the IMDb credits at all. However, the sources (none of which are particularly great) do name him in a cast list even though IMDb doesn't... Regardless, this is just one role and even if if is verifiable it isn't enough to pass the NACTOR SNG. On a side note, I was WP:CANVASSED by the article creator on my talk page to comment here, but obviously my opinion isn't what they were hoping it would be. 4meter4 (talk) 15:47, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: At first glance, this appears to have been G7 deleted by Hey man im josh(talk·contribs·blocks·protections·deletions·page moves·rights·RfA)… but what actually was deleted was a redirect, as 伊丽莎白大声 (talk·contribs) has moved it to Kefas Brand, saying Kefas Brand is more suitable than Rodney Kefas Namisi since it’s the most known ñame I made a mistake when moving the page. I'm not sure that's supposed to play out like that during an AfD; this probably needs to be moved back to avoid a possible erroneous close for being already speedy deleted when that isn't entirely the case. (No other opinion.) WCQuidditch☎✎20:05, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
delete - this is nothing more than total vanity spam and a ratehr poor attempt at promo. neither the individual, company or associates are close to being notable.CUPIDICAE❤️21:57, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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This is what appears to be a promotional article, with very questionable sources ranging from blogs to an Amazon listing. Does not appear to pass WP:NAUTHOR, nor WP:MUSICBIO. When conducting a before search, I've had no luck coming up with anything even remotely approaching WP:SIGCOV. Kylemahar902 (talk) 13:02, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Clear paid-for WP:ADMASQ for a non-notable motivational speaker. No pass on any WP:NBIO SNGs, and I only see one source that might be WP:SIGCOV, but it appears non-independent given the promotional material that it includes. (Plus, seen in today's light the headline "From Diddy dreams to transforming teens" is quite unfortunate.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:28, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for following up! Good thing to point out is that Ali Niknam isn't only known for bunq but he's also had a big impact through other companies he started, like TransIP and a data center company. This being said I don't think it's representative to be linked to one company.
There’s plenty of media coverage about Ali Niknam, which is showing that his work and achievements have been noticed and reported by various independent sources. There are plenty of sources in the article Ali NiknamSpokeoino (talk) 16:31, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with KLZR (FM): KWMV-LP was apparently replaced by KLZR; there is little need to split them between two articles despite the separate licenses. (This would have been a remnant of the lower standards of 2009 in any event.) WCQuidditch☎✎23:42, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is insufficient coverage of KLZR in either guise to merit an article, so a merge and then redirect is the best option. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 17:39, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with KKJD (FM): it's the same owner and in the same city, so this is a case where the LPFM was closed in favor of a full-power license. We don't need two separate articles for that. (This is a remnant of the lower inclusion standards of 2009 in any event.) WCQuidditch☎✎00:16, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I found [12] and [13], Which are significant references from reliable resources. This company meets WP:NCORP. I can also see the page is reviewed by Klbrain and he stated on creator's talk page "Thanks for creating this page for a company, which has independent coverage focussing on the company which has drugs in clinical use." Bakhtar40 (talk) 06:47, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: given the current lack of any mention on the list of radio stations in California, that might be the path of least resistance here. Since the soft-deletion ineligibility and resulting relisting stemmed from being the recreation of a previous PROD deletion (which the recreator acknowledged as such from the start), I mostly wanted to point out the rationale from that 2007 PROD: Article does not establish notability, and low-power FM radio stations in the US are generally non-notable. That stance, which may well be in-line with how LPFM notability (or lack thereof) is perceived in 2025, wasn't exactly widely shared in this topic area in 2007–2008 (an era of lower inclusion standards that generally assumed that merely having an FCC license at all was a sign of notability, without bothering to move on to confirming whether there was any significant coverage to back that up), or to some extent at any point before the 2021 RfC that confirmed the GNG as the notability barometer here. WCQuidditch☎✎20:25, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: the article at the moment cites two Burlington Free Press articles, and one of those articles was also in there at the time of nomination as an offline source. Not sure if those can or should be enough (I'm not offering an opinion at this time), but that is not exactly "no sources" either. (For completeness: the Big Heavy World source, since that entity was not independent of the station, is of no relevance here in determining notability.) WCQuidditch☎✎02:42, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep This is one of the borderline cases, and I wish I had a little more recent coverage. I do not know why they turned in the license as there is no coverage. But coverage for an LPFM feels stronger in Vermont than most places (e.g. WOOL (FM) which was low-power for years). Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 18:27, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I disagree with the contention about "only technical information". There was substantial internal turmoil that killed this station within two months (!), but it led to a writeup in the Charleston newspaper, which is cited. This is probably a borderline case because of how short-lived it was, but those two refs of coverage amount to more than most of the LPFMs up for deletion. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 00:39, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure this actually needs a standalone article. What's here is pretty threadbare, being limited to a plot summary and a brief overview of the episode's production, and both of these feel like they can easily be covered within the main Knuckles article. The only sources I can find that aren't already incorporated here concern the Sonic '06 reference ([14], [15]) which seems like it can easily be covered in the "Legacy" section of the '06 article, and/or within a brief sentence in the "Reception" section of the Knuckles series article, and a Daily Dot article about the episode... not even really the episode, just the episode's title, becoming a short-lived Twitter meme ([16]), which I don't think is notable enough to mention anywhere at all.
Merge The episode does not have WP:SIGCOV from reliable sources in my view. Might need to be moved and then disambiguated after merging due to the aforementioned Sonic 06 reference. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:04, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The person have not received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. WP:CORPTRIV: "standard notices, brief announcements, and routine coverage, e.g.: "said Roman Gevorkyan, future administrator of the club" or "as Armenian businessman Roman Gevorkyan is strongly considering a bid.." Cinder painter (talk) 08:48, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article was completely rewrote without providing external information, meaning that the article only focus on the Indonesian markets, rather than it's origin (Singapore-based). VernardoLau (talk) 08:34, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Restore to former state, and close the AfD. Yes, the article got hijacked by an editor whose username suggests that they work for MyRepublic Indonesia, and they converted into an exclusively Indonesian article. The editor is currently indefinitely blocked. If the problem with the article is merely that it is still heavily contaminated by their work, then it should be restored to what it was before they started. We only need a deletion discussion if we are considering deleting the previous article. Is that the case? Elemimele (talk) 16:44, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fails ANYBIO; apparently not a notable artist, with paid publications (and interviews) written in an awkwardly promotional tone; winner of the unknown 'prestigious' biennale. Cinder painter (talk) 08:19, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for now. There's been at least two waves of substantive coverage, the first throughout July-August when the scandal broke, and the second throughout November (e.g. [17], [18], [19]) as more information came out and the coach resigned. It even got some substantial academic analysis ([20]), and coverage in other months (October, September, September. This is pretty enduring coverage for a scandal, and it seems to have had major effects on the Canadian soccer program. At worst this would be a merge to the Canada Soccer article, but right now I think there's enough to justify a stand alone article. Eddie891TalkWork11:55, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in addition to the points made by Eddie891, it is a significant example of ethical issues raised by drone technology in relation to sports, which will have ongoing importance. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 12:47, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It’s had such significant lasting impact as to an ongoing investigation, overhaul of the women’s team, and one of the longest-serving members of Canada Soccer staff quitting in disgrace. That we don’t constantly update articles during investigations, especially if there may be legal ramifications, is perfectly normal. That the incident drew in French police and affected other Olympics teams makes its impact and scope even greater. Kingsif (talk) 13:50, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – "Only short-term attention, no long-term impact" is not a reason for deletion, see WP:DEL-REASON. There are many other single-occurrence event articles. Regardless, I would also debate that there is no long-term impact. Kodak11111 (talk) 20:40, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Very well sourced article easily passes WP:GNG. Extensive coverage both geographically and over many months shows that this isn't routine news. pburka (talk) 23:56, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Declined prod with reason he was Pan american champion. I could not find sources to verify this. Google news comes up with a Chilean politician with the same name. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NOLY. Note he did not finish the sole Olympic event he was in. LibStar (talk) 22:17, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Provided sources (More could be found with a simple Google search. Obviously expect Spanish-language sources, not English ones) are sufficient IMO. Bedivere (talk) 00:59, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Curicópedia used to be a wiki but it isn't anymore, so the "open for editing" claim is not true. You should be able to search inside the magazine, try searching Manuel Aravena. Bedivere (talk) 23:00, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. Strike Curicopedia. We still have claims of notability here and there, and since his participation in some Pan American competition (not the Pan American games as Sam Kuru points out) dates back to the 1980s, there may be offline material since he is claimed to have won a medal or something. Bedivere (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Curicópedia is unsourced and user-generated and can't be used as a source here, but it can certainly be used to provide information to search on. Note that the Panamerican Games didn't happen in 1981; I think that's another large-scale event that he won. I think Bedivere is right - there's likely to be a decent amount of offline material on this. Unfortunately, my Spanish is also from the 1980s. I was able to find minor mentions in 1980 fairly quickly, and small mentions here, but that looks a little bloggy. Sam Kuru(talk)00:34, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Anadrinë offensive and Battle of Jezerc started the "frontal-war" in their respective regions; Anadrinë offensive for the Paštrik and Anadrinë region while Battle of Jezerc for the Ferizaj and Neredimë region. Battle of Rezalla was the first large-scale battle of the entire Kosovo conflict so for "Kosovo War-standards" they are pretty notable. For Battle of Hajla Pass there is currently a discussion and Surkis ambush is minor and has also been nominated. Peja mapping (talk) 13:04, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Meets WP:CREATIVE Various sources discuss his work for very notable films, especially Phantom of Paradise and Carrie, indeed. They include Mitchell, N. (2014). Carrie Liverpool University Press, p. 39; De Palma, B. (2003). Brian De Palma : interview University Press of Mississippi. p 41; The New Yorker. (1976) Volume 52/6 - Page 183; Bouzereau, L. (1988). The DePalma cut: the films of America's most controversial director New York: Dembner Books, p. 44 -Mushy Yank. 08:25, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could you share what those sources say as viable third party coverage? I found the first and second but I was unable to read them. In a review of the first book which I could read, De Palma is mentioned often but Auer wasn't mentioned at all which strikes me as the reviewer not finding mentions of Auer enough to be notable. I am all for keeping more pages on Wikipedia, given enough content and notability. Moritoriko (talk) 08:41, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The first evokes the films he has worked on; the second is BdP saying why and how he worked with him and how much he appreciates his work, the third indicates the importance of his work in Carrie, the fourth indicates how he worked on the supernatural forces in Carrie. MANY other sources in various languages (EN, FR, IT, etc) indicate his work for Carrie was important in making the film what it is. -Mushy Yank. 10:05, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, after further digging I was able to find the 3 books (no dice on The New Yorker) and I strongly disagree that any of those 3 offer enough to meet the criteria. In Interviews he talks about his production secretary, Wendy Bartel, as much as he talked about Auer. I'm very impressed with how you were able to find those references to his name but I am sticking with Delete. Moritoriko (talk) 11:29, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to try to find more sourcing to back up your argument. Offhand I'll say this - I've actually heard of the guy and he's been dead since the 90s. He's somewhat known in the horror/exploitation flick crowd, since he did the effects on some pretty major movies in the genre (Carrie, Dirty Marry Crazy Larry, Phantom of the Paradise).
Offhand I did find this review from the New Yorker that mentions his work in Carrie. I think we should count reviews like this towards notability because well, individual special effects people typically don't get mentioned in sources unless they've made a name for themselves. They don't get the big attention unless they manage to make it super big ala Tom Savini (or dip their toes into other fields more likely to get sourcing - also ala Tom Savini). My point is that special effects people are part of a group that's kind of like educators - we need to take the smaller mentions into consideration.
In this book it's specifically mentioned that Auer's work in Carrie was imitated by other, subsequent horror films - implying that he's made an impact on his field. I'll see if I can find other things beyond Carrie, of course. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。)15:21, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
At bare minimum I think we should at least redirect with history to the film article for Carrie - that seems to be what is bringing up the most promising results. I could swear there's more out there and that I've seen mention of him in various RS, it's just not coming up for me. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。)15:34, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! This one is really frustrating since the guy is known in the horror communities - I remember Joe Bob Briggs featuring one of his movies (I think Hills have Eyes) and mentioning him. I don't think it's impossible to establish notability, just that this might end up taking longer than the AfD would run, given that he died in 1993 and his last major film was in the 1970s. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。)00:51, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete After trying to search around with various terms in addition to his name all I was able to find was a 1 sentence mention of his involvement in the special effects in Carrie in the Independent, which certainly doesn't qualify for GNG Moritoriko (talk) 08:28, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect Considering the only page that links here is Carrie (1976 film) and almost all the sources mention him in context of that movie I think it is fine to have his name redirect to the Filming subheading on that page. Moritoriko (talk) 06:39, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Correct, that mention alone is not enough for GNG but is a strong indication other sources should confirm he meets WP:CREATIVE. Which I think he does. -Mushy Yank. 10:06, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect, I don't know how to change my original comment but I'd be satisfied with a redirect to Carrie, I attempted to add a paragraph there showing his influence on the film. Moritoriko (talk) 00:22, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for teaching me how to do that, I totally forgot you can edit this page like every other page on Wikipedia. You can change your vote to redirect as well so we can get consensus and close this then :) Moritoriko (talk) 06:39, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Byng Arts Mini Program is a notable part of the school and the Vancouver school system, but it is not significant enough on its own to merit a separate article. The Vancouver school district has many other mini school programs in other schools, and while the Byng Arts Mini Program has unique aspects to it, the coverage available isn't enough to establish it as especially notable.
If a merger is decided, reliably sourced and encyclopedic content should be merged into the Lord Byng Secondary School article. Merged material should also be checked for 'academic boosterism', which I would argue is present throughout the near entirety of the article. Yue🌙05:47, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fictional prison from Marvel/Spiderman verse. Pure plot summary and list of appearances. No reception, analysis, etc. The topic also has a section in Features of Spider-Man media (a problematic article that is currently discussed in its own AfD). I doubt we need even a single mention of this on Wikipedia outside a plot summary in some Spider-Man arc or comic; we certainly don't need two. This could be ATD-R to the mentioned article, but IMHO that one should be deleted as well, so... shrug. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here02:16, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Features of Spider-Man media. Though that article is up for AfD right now, the content will likely be merged to another article if merged, or kept around if kept, so I'm comfortable leaving a redirect here. Features of the Marvel Universe is also a decent merge target should that article be kept, but it's a bit up in the air right now given all these AfDs are active at the same time. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 02:59, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - If you want this discussion to wait until the previously mentioned AFD debates have concluded, why do you have merge/redirect verdict instead of a suggestion the Delay the AFD verdict or something like that? --Rtkat3 (talk) 02:09, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't presume to speak for Daranios who I am sure will correct me if I am wrong, but I am assuming they agree the nominating topic is not notable and should be merged/redirect somewhere, with the best target being in the air for now, depending on whether the other mentioned article or articles survives the AfD or not. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here03:19, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Rtkat3: I would prefer to wait with the decision until we know the result of the other AfDs. I just thought I cannot be sure if a closer will follow my request, so a selective merge as described would be my opinion if I am forced to decide now. Does that make sense? Or is there a different suggested procedure for such a case? Daranios (talk) 17:32, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect or merge. Neutral on the target. "Features of Spider-Man media" is up for deletion, and may itself be removed, or merged. This redirect can be changed based on that outcome. Shooterwalker (talk) 20:01, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Last AfD in 2017 was no consensus. I tend to agree with one of the delete voters' comments from last time "Lacks reviews, sales, charting, depth of coverage. Current sources just verify it's existence but don't provide any real independent coverage". An added Amazon source hardly adds to notability, Australian Music Online is just a database listing. Still fails WP:NALBUMS. LibStar (talk) 03:55, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've done enough new page patrolling to have my spidey sense go off whenever I see a BLP by a single-purpose account about someone described as "keynote speaker, consultant and coach" with a copyright infringing photo.... and this biography (which is basically WP:ADMASQ for the subject's book and consulting practices) is no exception. I do not find any notability pass for this individual. A quick review of sources: WP:PRIMARYSOURCE bios/event descriptions ([21], [22], [23], [24]), Q&A-based WP:INTERVIEWS ([25], [26]), and an apparently self-published blog post summarizing a university group's book club reflections on the subject's book. In my WP:BEFORE search, I found only one independent, reliable source review of her book, so I don't see a WP:NAUTHOR pass. I didn't find WP:SIGCOV in independent, reliable sources for a WP:GNG pass. (She's covered in the Daily Mail, but that's a deprecated/unreliable source per WP:RSP.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:54, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Last AfD had limited participation so renominating. Fails GNG and WP:EVENT. The sources provided in last AfD were not reliable: tennis-related media and youtube. LibStar (talk) 03:47, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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None of the sources are about, or mention the subject. There are no claims to importance that can be sourced or verified. Possibly an autobio or one written by a friend. Fails GNG. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:05, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Note to closer: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log for almost 24 hours until I transcluded it with this edit. Not sure what the best procedure is here, but you may want to relist to ensure the debate has a full seven days of visibility. Zeibgeist (talk) 02:26, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Not enough WP:BEFORE work was done here, and the article simply needs expansion. The album's release announcement was profiled (briefly) by the reliable Pitchfork[39], and then it received reliable pro reviews from Kerrang[40] and New Noise[41]. It was also reviewed by a lot of lesser-known but still valid punk magazines like Wall of Sound[42] and others found by the voter above. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:24, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Apparently she did win a gold medal in the 2003 World Rowing Championships, so I get plenty of hits on random sports statistics websites and such, but not seeing anything at in terms of coverage. I think someone created this article along with others like Liane Malcos just to fill out the redlinks, and such articles do not contribute to the value of the encyclopedia. Kylemahar902 (talk) 22:52, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting one. I am removing a CSD tag that states, in essence, that the article is a hoax. The problem is that there are sources, albeit weak ones that appear to be motivated by a particular interpretation of history because it supports their religious beliefs. If we decide to keep an article on this topic we would want coverage of the possibility that the subject battle never took place. I do believe that deletion is likely the better outcome which is why I am listing it here. UninvitedCompany17:26, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weakness is definitely a consideration. The first source is the defunct WWW site of a catholic church in Pennsylvania. However, there's an 1899 source by François Nau (Opuscules maronites) that talks about "combat près d'Amioun" and in its turn sources the claim to the writings of Étienne Douaïhi d'Ehden, so this might need more scrutiny than just outright dismissal for being mostly sourced to a dead anonymously-written inexpert early 2000s WWW site, although there's still the possibility that al-Duwayhi invented this and Nau offers scant independent corroboration. Uncle G (talk) 17:54, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I have added additional sources backing the documentation of the battle. The claim that the subject only exists because of certain authors backgrounds is problematic in it of itself but has little strength unless one were to argue that Gibbons, Hitti, Sandrussi, Selim and Encyclopedia Britannica were all Maronite apologists. The prerequisite of the battle not happening or else it will be deleted does not have any justification and seems to just be an excuse to delete the page. Red Phoenician (talk) 08:10, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am the administrator who declined G4. I just wanted to come by and say that the previous discussion was in 2016, nine years ago, and that since then the company has apparently achieved a valuation of $1.2 billion and has undergone five rounds of venture capital fundraising. That seems quite significant. -- Ynot?00:57, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The text is of low quality and reads very much like a high school paper, not like a proper WP article. It's basically a long three-point essay.
It's at least a decade out of date.
It contains no discussion of important topics like the very important 1990s education reform, the CATS test and its successors, or the 2024 referendum, apart from one sentence at the begining
It makes vague statements about AP classes not specific to the topic, or summarizes old opinion pieces, without providing any useful information.
Sources range from mediocre (local news articles) to abysmal. One of them now links to a spam site.
There is no part of this article that would be worth incorporating into the history article, nor any other article, nor to any future rewrite of this article. Any editor who wishes to write a coverage of this topic, and the relevant points in #4, would be better off expanding History of education in Kentucky#Since 1990. Nicknimh (talk) 01:33, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support deletion. While an article of sufficient notability and quality COULD be written to occupy a similar title: the article that exists is not justified for the aforementioned reasons. SecretName101 (talk) 02:02, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Kentucky has an interesting education history; in the late 1980s, the entire state education system was found to violate the state constitution! But this is an essay. A couple of references could survive in History of education in Kentucky but little else. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 02:17, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This minor, non-fatal airline incident fails WP:NEVENT. It got a burst of (mostly tabloid) coverage in the few days after the event, but there is no WP:LASTING effect or WP:SUSTAINED coverage. Without sustained coverage, this also fails WP:NOTNEWS and thus WP:GNG. (Fram's PROD was contested by page creator, who is now blocked as a sock.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:13, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify or weak keep. On a purely WP:GNG basis, there's enough sourcing to justify notability. It's definitely not a great article, but that's why I asked this article to be restored so it could be improved. guninvalid (talk) 05:21, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This event seems to have had no lasting effects and no sustained coverage. The most recent source seems to be this SCMP article from two weeks after the incident; the article mentions no lasting effects beyond: "After the incident, the head and deputy of Taizhou’s civil aviation administration were suspended from their duties." Since the creator is a blocked sock and the article has been thoroughly refbombed, including with a source about a completely different incident, I will not do my own search for sources. Toadspike[Talk]08:20, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is a neologism, and does not meet our standards for it. There is actually a lot of usage of the term, but it's always referring to it in the context of its creator, and should be merged to the creator of the term, Jarret Brachman. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:57, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for lack of significant coverage. It's hilarious, and I'm a fan of portmanteaux myself (I invented mergetarian in 2008), but as the years have passed, we've become more strict with notability. Bearian (talk) 04:57, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Ineligible for soft deletion. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit01:57, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is an article about a local museum with little notability outside of town that has now closed. Only recent articles are about its closure from local sources. Braedencapaul (talk) 01:54, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Does not pass WP:NEVENT. The coverage is not WP:INDEPTH enough to write a satisfactory article, and the coverage is not particularly sustained. Nothing between sentencing and incident, or since. On the balance of things this does not pass our guidelines and there is not enough to write a decent article. This wasn't even intentional, they sentenced him over intoxication manslaughter, so I would oppose merging it to any attack list. We could probably merge it for two sentences to Brownsville, Texas#21st century, because it seems locally significant, but there isn't anything to say besides it happened, no background or aftermath, etc. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:33, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Ineligible for soft deletion. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit01:51, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No lasting coverage past when the incident occurred except for a couple articles about the conviction, which also didn't get any lasting coverage after a day or two. NOTNEWS certainly applies here. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:26, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Three problems with merging: (1) from past discussions, closers can't and won't do that unless someone takes the time to create the target article, (ii) decade articles are normally done from the start of a decade to the end (e.g., 2010-2019), and in this case we don't have a run of articles that covers a full decade, and (iii) even a decade article has to have some level of SIGCOV, and I'm not sure it exists on this progrm. Cbl62 (talk) 02:33, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The corresponding German article at de:Jauer has more people. de:Nikolaus Magni von Jauer treats Jauer as a surname, although the English article Nicholas Magni does not. The person was born in Jawor (German: Jauer), which explains that instance of the surname. An alternative to deletion would be to merge this into Jauer (disambiguation), but that's propbably not necessary given the other names shown in the corresponding German page.
Delete: two of the three entries are a mere translation from German, but the Jauer toponym they refer to is Jawor. The third entry is already listed at the disambiguation page Jauer. Broc (talk) 09:58, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: A Google Search came up with him being involved in a scandal in 2014 here, on the page of a newspaper, the Sri Lanka Guardian, with a Wikipedia article. This doesn't connect to his playing career, of course; we'll, perhaps unfortunately, have to use ESPNcricinfo and CricketArchive for those, like is the case with a lot of Sri Lankan cricketers of that vintage. One source is still better than none...and if someone at WP:CRIC knows Tamil, maybe other sources can show themselves. I don't have a vote either way (he has enough matches for me not to support but not enough matches for me to oppose), but I wanted to point out I had found something about him. JustJamie820 (talk) 22:37, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
keep I think this satisfies WP:GNG directly without having to slip through any notability loopholes. It has a very long history and there does seem to be continuing interest in it as a sort of early planned community. Mangoe (talk) 04:08, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]