Overpackaging is a legitimate article. First discussion was in Packaging waste but it became clear that there was sufficient material for a separate article.
Both the Packaging and the Technology wikiprojsects have rated this as a C.
The article has many excellent citations, indicating that this is an important subject. Some citations are highly technical.
Keep There is significant coverage of overpackaging as a concept. Packaging waste is not the same thing: it results from any packaging, even minimal, and is also a topic that is addressed in many sources. For coverage about overpackaging, for example - here's an article about Korea penalising department stores and large supermarkets that overpackage goods: [1], and another about penalising excessive packaging for parcels: [2]. Here's an article about calls to cut back overpackaging in Taiwan: [3]. A couple of other articles about excessive packaging of parcels by online sellers: [4], [5]. This US Senate hearing from 1961 on Packaging and Labeling Practices (page 204) [6] explains that one reason for overpackaging is to stop goods being stolen. The Proceedings of the 2016 Academy of Marketing Science (AMS) World Marketing Congress has an article "Is it really worthwhile for a brand to eliminate overpackaging?" [7]. It certainly meets WP:GNG with significant coverage in reliable sources over a long period of time. RebeccaGreen (talk) 11:27, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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If someone is willing to create an article on it I'm fine with a merge. None of the potential merge targets such as Oruru, Parapara, or Aurere exist as articles. Traumnovelle (talk) 23:15, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Split Completely agree census tracts are not notable, but this is a unique situation where the census tract covers four places which are eligible for WP:NGEO articles, but those articles don't appear to exist yet. It may be better editorially to actually keep this until those articles exist. Oruru certainly needs its own article based on a WP:BEFORE search. Oruru was listed as a town in Wise's New Zealand 1905, Aurere as a station, Parapara as "see Mangonui," and Paranui as a bit harder to find. Aurere now looks like a hamlet and there's a tourist centre there, Paranui is clearly a hamlet as well, Parapara is a "locality" with several houses. All are clearly defined by the census and as such would all pass WP:NGEO on their own, so we shouldn't lose any of the information at this article. SportingFlyerT·C06:48, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Oruru which seems to be the most significant of the localities mentioned after checking maps and Google Street View. More information about the area and its history can be found easily - just search for "Oruru Hall" which was once (reputedly) the northernmost cinema in New Zealand. The existing text can be kept as its demographic information e.g. "The Oruru-Parapara statistical area, which includes Oruru..." Daveosaurus (talk) 19:50, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reference 2 also plainly has the heading Elizabeth City. This appears to be an inside-out article with the city's post office being treated as the main subject when the only decent source in the article is more about the city, and how it collapsed, itself. The city does get a namecheck in the 1884 Inter-State History of Henry County, Indiana, so that is 2 separate history books, and the Hazzard one is fairly detailed even if it is mostly about how the city stopped existing. Really, this should be Elizabeth City, Indiana without the "unincorporated community" falsehoods. It's a genuine settlement that's recorded by history, albeit that Hazzard in its first sentence clarifies that this "City" was actually a village. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 19:56, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Fails WP:GNG. The article was recently created (not through AfC) by a new editor whose userpage says they know the subject. Vinci's "career" consists of material about one case that is more about the defendant than about Vinci, his lawyer. The sources supporting the material, including a blog (unreliable), have no significant coverage of Vinci. Bbb23 (talk) 16:58, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What I kindly ask is—why cut short the biographical profile of a lawyer who, at such a young age, has already been involved in nationally significant trials, working tirelessly and entirely on his own? He became a lawyer in the minimum time required by law in Italy. Now, imagine for a moment that this was you, many years ago, as a young, ambitious lawyer.
I say—at this point, the page exists. Trust the process and allow a little time. If things don’t turn out as you wish, then let it be removed. But for now, let’s give it a fair chance, with a bit of common sense.
I apologize. In any case, this news is spreading rapidly in Italy right now. Several interviews will be released by the lawyer, both about this high-profile case (in Italy) and others. The process is taking longer because, in Italy, there are mandatory waiting periods for the reasoning behind court rulings, which restrict lawyers' ability to give interviews. If the page remains, I will personally ensure it is updated accurately, day by day. Yuriupdates (talk) 19:26, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that the article meets the notability criteria because the subject has received significant coverage from independent and reliable sources, such as La Gazzetta del Mezzogiorno and Il Quotidiano del Sud. Furthermore, the subject has had a recognized impact in the legal sector, as demonstrated by specific achievements. Additionally, there are numerous other high-impact legal cases still ongoing, which will be published as soon as it becomes legally possible to do so. The notability of the subject lie precisely in the fact that it is extremely rare in Italy for such results to be achieved at such a young age. Given these factors, I believe the article should be retained. Yuriupdates (talk) 21:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My WP:BEFORE turned up no decent sources with significant independent coverage - it seems to be almost entirely recycled press releases, passing mentions, interviews or items that the subject has written themselves. I therefore submit that notability is not established under WP:GNG and I don't think that any of the WP:SNG pertain in this case. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 19:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SunloungerFrog. Thank you for your feedback and for reviewing the article. To address the concerns raised in the nomination, I am actively improving the article by removing sources that lack sufficient independence or reliability. Additionally, I am researching and incorporating high-quality references that offer significant coverage of the subject from third-party, independent sources. To ensure the article adheres to a neutral point of view and complies with Wikipedia's guidelines, I have already removed content that appeared promotional. Based on these ongoing improvements, I kindly request that you consider the revisions before making a final decision regarding the deletion of the article. Thank you.
Draftify and move to user space. This is a first-time editor trying to lean how to create an article. Rather than delete their first effort at an article, it would be better to move this to their user space, so they could take their time and learn the process. — Maile (talk) 03:34, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Previously deleted. Created by a single purpose editor, no inline citations and surprisingly not 1 hit in google news, which is very unusual for a UK based org. Fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 22:52, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The Liputani 6 source in the article is trivial, the other one looks better. This [8], but both are rather short and read as PROMO when I translate them. I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:47, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep. Speedy keep #1 - the nominator does not advance a rationale for deletion (indeed explicitly suggesting merge). Discussion on merging or expansion should take place on the article talk page. The BushrangerOne ping only23:53, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
U.S. Highway 10 is only 8 miles long in North Dakota, and I feel that 8 miles is not long enough to have a state-specific article. I feel that this can be discussed within the Minnesota article. Also, the segment of US Highway 8 in Minnesota is more than twice as long as the North Dakota segment of US 10, yet it doesn't have a standalone article. Cyber the tiger🐯 (talk) 21:28, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The reason U.S. Route 8 doesn't have a Minnesota-specific article is because the entire route is short enough to not have any state-specific articles at all. It doesn't have much to do with the Minnesota segment itself.MattEditor02 (talk) 21:34, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
US 10 was once much longer in the state of North Dakota, spanning the width of the state and crossing into Montana. There's a lot of history there to cover that doesn't belong in the Minnesota article. The better comparison would be something more like U.S. Route 33 in Michigan, not US 8.
As for US 8, it doesn't have sub articles for one reason. The length of the Michigan section is an order of magnitude smaller than the Minnesota segment, and in turn, the Minnesota segment is an order of magnitude smaller than the Wisconsin segment. If I were to create three separate articles and then summarize them into a parent article, that parent article would basically duplicate the hypothetical Wisconsin article.
All of you (sans SportingFlyer) are missing the point if you think that our encyclopaedia criteria are based in any way upon how long the road is. How good is the sourcing? How much sourcing is there? There's not a mention of that from any of you, even in the nomination rationale. None of you have provided any grounding in deletion policy at all. Uncle G (talk) 23:46, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep meets WP:NPLACE@PharyngealImplosive7: Looking at it on Google Maps you can see there are a bunch of houses on Mahmid Road. So to think that that cluster of houses is called Mahmid makes sense to me. A large majority of tiny villages on this planet technically fail WP:V, because reliable sources (or at least the ones I have access to) do not cover every single tiny village on this planet. This is way way bigger than Achnabat. Polygnotus (talk) 03:47, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So what sources turn up that satisfy those principles? You seem to be unwilling to provide a single one and instead argue that we should build an encyclopaedia because it "makes sense to me" that we should have things that by your own admission fail even basic verifiability. We've had a massive problem with mass-created places from databases that fail verifiability because the databases aren't constructed reliably, in Iran and elsewhere, and you're going to have to pull your finger out and actually show verifiability. "makes sense to me" is worthless in the face of what we know regarding the unreliability of these mass database imports by an editor that we had massive community discussions about and who is the article creator using a database here. Uncle G (talk) 02:56, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Badly written article about a footballer, with no significant coverage, and I found none either. Played once in the Serie B, never in the Serie A, and one season in the Serie C1 with Livorno as well as some games here and there. Note that there is a more notable outfield player of the same name. Geschichte (talk) 21:15, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I don't see any French news coverage for this person and can only find a few stat sites mentioning him. What's in the article isn't useful, I'm not seeing GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 00:49, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also want it noted that I did merge and redirect the necessary information to the other page but that effort was reversed by the creator, and I understand why. But I still think its not necessary to create a seperate page for the method of execution - only used once - when its already went into detail in the second. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:10, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, obviously, albeit equally respectfully; my reasons for unaccepting the redirect were that it would constitute WP:UNDUEWEIGHT in other articles. My belief has not been altered. Serial(speculates here)21:26, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I find a range of coverage that is not already included in this article. Serious coverage includes Culinary Shakespeare: Staging Food and Drink in Early Modern England (2016) which has a chapter on "Fluid Mechanics: Shakespeare's Subversive Liquors" that consider the symbolism of the butt of malmsey; also The Living Age, Volume 53, (1857), Notes and Queries, page 623, which also considers why malmsey? how - was the butt open at the top? etc; and Nineteen Centuries of Drink in England (1884) also talks about how and why, and the origin of the name malmsey. The Comic History of England (1894) also considers how and why, and comments about Edward the IVth "The butt of Malmsey in which he caused his brother to be drowned was, it is believed, actually sold as a full fruity wine with "plenty of body in it," after poor Clarence had been in soak till death relieved him from his drenching." (This also appears in a joke in the Illustrated London News in 1847.) Hugh Ross Williamson used The Butt of Malmsey as a title for one of his books [9]. Elizabeth Peters' contemporary mystery novel The Murders of Richard III contains a beheading, a poisoning, and a butt of malmsey, according to a review in the Sunday Express. A comical article on "How to Write a Novel" in the People's Friend (1901) suggests that the plot should end with the hero under a locomotive or at the bottom of a butt of malmsey. Stratford-upon-Avon had (or has) a darts team and a pub called Butt of Malmsey (the pub also hosted folk clubs, discos and plays). A case in 1526 in which it was alleged that a carrier broke a butt of malmsey is discussed in The Oxford History of the Laws of England Volume VI. A History of Agriculture and Prices in England says that "malmsey is first entered by the butt in the Wardrobe account of 1500", and gives prices compared to other kinds and containers of wines, and lists statutes about volume, prices and duty.
In other words, there is plenty of other significant coverage, over a long period of time, of the various aspects covered in this article, and other cultural references, which could be added to this article, and which confirm that it certainly meets WP:GNG. RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:39, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - clearly a worthwhile and self-sufficient article in its own right. And agreeing with RebeccaGreen, by whose scholarship I am mightily impressed, that there's a lot more could well be added to the article. Tim riley talk17:09, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per RebeccaGreen, whose extensive list I find convincing. Even though it is a short measure of the full 126 separate items of coverage implied. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:24, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per RebeccaGreen. Obviously sufficient material for a standalone and separate article (we have numerous articles on people's deaths, and there's nothing that suggests this should be any different. - SchroCat (talk) 19:06, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Fall of George Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence#Butt of malmsey. This seems like an unnecessary WP:CFORK of a pre-existing article on this topic. To those commenting we should keep this because we have many articles on the deaths of individuals, I think they missed the nominators point that we already have an article on Plantagenet's death (and the events leading up to it) and that this is a second competing article on the same topic. We don't need two separate articles on the same person's execution.4meter4 (talk) 23:59, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, only SchroCat has mentioned keeping an article "because we have many articles on the deaths of individuals"—which is not the baseless argument you suggest either—so you've ignored the arguments of several others. The current article is currently ~1390 words; the 'Fall of' article is at ~4440. You would nearly double the target article's size. And while you say "we already have an article on Plantagenet's death"; no, no we do not. It is, as you parenthesise, about "the events leading up to it". Only a few lines are (were, before the nom edit warred a chunk of duplicate material back in) on his actual execution, for the reason that Clarence's execution is not the pertinent academic topic; his fall, and what it teaches historians about 15th-century bastard feudal political relations, is. The current article, on the other hand, examines the historical and cultural impact of a 'butt of malmsey'. The in-depth discussion about Shakespeare would be absolutely WP:UNDUE in the 'Fall of' article, as is historical detail on tunnage and poundage, poems, Dickens views. Are you really suggesting that discussions vis a vis the history and technical specs of an ancient unit of measurement would be relevant to the 'Fall of' article? Or Lermontov's comparison to a Russian dragoon. Per WP:CFORK, spinoff articles become necessary ... when the expansion of a section creates an undue weight problem for the article, which is precisely the situation here. It's a notable standalone subtopic and by no no stretch f the imagination can it be termed "a second competing article on the same topic" as anything else on the project. Serial(speculates here)10:56, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A better defined lead differentiating this article's scope from the other might sway my opinion, but as of now I disagree that this isn't a competing article. I also think most of the content would not be WP:UNDUE in the other article which I think is implied by my merge vote. A few details probably would need to be trimmed (or better yet preserved in a notes section), but they are rather esoteric and not necessarily essential for an encyclopedia. Please keep your comments non-personal by avoiding "you" statements. It comes off as hostile. I'm not planning on responding further unless some actual work is done on this article in article space to change my perception of the content area.4meter4 (talk) 16:12, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rather a "got nuthin" case: searching produced no helpful county history, and other hits where chance juxtapositions of "Indiana" and one of the several French cities with "Aix" as part of the name. As to the uncited claim, the church closed in 2022 and stands in complete isolation; the vet is actually down the road south a ways and advertises itself as being in Rensselaer. So I'm not finding any testimony to this spot other than a post office. Mangoe (talk) 17:33, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It gets a tantalizing contextless mention in volume 2 of Hamilton's and Darroch's A standard history of Jasper and Newton counties, Indiana (A standard history of Jasper and Newton counties, Indiana at the Internet Archive). There is no clue from that what it is. The 19th century railway and shipping guides list Rensselaer as the nearest station, so it's not a railway station. But an 1896 USPS directory confirms Baker's statement that this was a post office. I ignored the AuthorHouse book. But Wood 1976, pp. 21–22 harvnb error: no target: CITEREFWood1976 (help) gives Aix it's own section, tracing what it calls the "tiny hamlet of Aix" to land records of Thomas Monnett in 1873–1875, and that seems to be a fairly decent source; better than what we often get. Uncle G (talk) 18:58, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wood, Mary Elizabeth (1976). "Aix". French Imprint on the Heart of America: Historical Vignettes of 110 French-related Localities in Indiana and the Ohio Valley. Unigraphic.
Courtesy ping to Bearian @Bearian, who preferred I nominate this for deletion after Christmas, though I'm quite sure why prodding or XfDing a suicide crisis center on the holidays would be as controversial as he describes. JayCubby17:22, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Subject fails WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Sources are either paid puff and advertorials, or they're talking about MOK Foundation directly (of course, promotionally) and not about him directly. Cannot find sufficient sources that satisfy reliability and independence and provide substantial coverage. The assessment below gives more details.
~ Highly and ridiculously promotional; Muideen Okunlola (MOK) is a remarkable individual whose profound humility and selflessness are deeply rooted in his upbringing., In conclusion, Muhydeen Kayode Okunlola’s journey from humble beginnings to becoming a beacon of hope and progress...
Highly and ridiculously promotional. FWIW, where were details this personal gotten from?
✘No
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Delete: fail WP:GNG the sources are puffy and aren't reliable both contents are promotional and the image source on wikicommon is suspicious like a proxy account for paid edits and going by the edit history of the duo accounts.Having affiliation with notable organisation(s) doesn't equate to automatic notability and besides both the subjects aren't notable enough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Royalesignature (talk • contribs) 12:01, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:GNG/WP:NEVENT, tried to move to draftspace for improvement but the creator reverted the action. I brought it to AFD to avoid move-warring. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔)08:46, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Does not appear to meet WP:NALBUM. Draftification and BLAR were contested, hence why I'm here now. Proposing redirect to Birdy (singer), the singer for the album. Currently the only sources are to Apple Music and Discogs and there does not appear to be enough based on a WP:BEFORE search to meet album notability guidelines. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:12, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source 2 is probably the best. Rest are blogs or review sites. Source 2 is a student magazine from what I read, I'd still like to see better sources before changing my !vote. Oaktree b (talk) 00:22, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Second source – Based on the about us section of the first reference, that's a student blog, and would not contribute to notability.
Third – Wordpress blog of a student, no oversight or clarity of what makes them a subject matter expert of any kind
Fourth – It's unclear what would make this a valid source to contribute to notability. Their FAQ page provides no information and there's no about us page to view either
Fifth – The content at WP:RATEYOURMUSIC is user-generated and is considered a generally unreliable deprecated source which should not be used
Sixth – WP:ALLMUSIC sources do not contribute to notability, and there's not even any reviews at this source to make said argument with
I doubt they read the discussion at all. They were the sock of a banned user, commenting at random AfD discussions willy-nilly in an attempt to mask their contribution to the one they actually cared about. The closer should disregard this comment. GirthSummit (blether)12:25, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We'd need a crystal ball to justify notability today. If any lasting effects or other grounds for notability come to light in the future, the article can always be recreated. In other words, usual caveats apply. Rosbif73 (talk) 07:39, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or at least Draftify. How can you claim no lasting impact when the investigation hasn't been completed? Surely it's too soon to claim that. Plenty of WP:GNG coverage to date. Another article appeared today about maintenance issues. The-Pope (talk) 16:02, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
draftify as twenty days is just not long enough to determine whether this accident is going to satisfy our notability standards. Mangoe (talk) 16:21, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify It has some sources that could sustain the coverage so I don’t think this will be deleted, but I neither think it’s having an article like it is right now. Protoeus (talk) 21:53, 31 January 2025 (UTC)`[reply]
The reports are said to be out in March – and that will no doubt get at least passing mentions in local news – but unless you have a crystal ball there's no way of knowing if there will be any significant or in-depth coverage, or if the conclusions of the investigation will lead to any lasting effects. If they do, the article can always be recreated. In the meantime, notability criteria are not met, so we should delete (or draftify). Rosbif73 (talk) 07:42, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keepbut Draftify I think this should be drafted, and kefp, but have some more info added, as the investigations go across. This does not deserve to be deleted due to "low coverage" A plane accident is a plane accident, no matter how big or small. It is supposed to be in the news. Shaneapickle (talk) 19:55, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A plane accident is a plane accident, no matter how big or small – Indeed, but that doesn't necessarily make it notable as far as Wikipedia is concerned. To quote the event notability criteria, "Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths, [...]) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable".
Lack of notability. Two of the sources are not about this comany; the third seems to be a dead link. A search for 'International Reputation Management' threw up nothing to establish notability, altho I did find a list of the top ten companies in this field...which did not include the subject of this article. TheLongTone (talk) 13:44, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your input. However, I respectfully disagree with your assessment that the company lacks notability. The notability guideline states that a topic is notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable, independent sources, not merely "brief mentions."
Multiple well-established, independent news organizations have written about the company. These sources meet Wikipedia's criteria for reliability and independence. A company is considered notable if it has "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the company itself." The company in question has been extensively covered by reputable media.
Delete: These are brief mentions or interviews that the subject above mentions. None of these are acceptable. I can only find name drops, nothing we can use for sourcing... Many PR items, which don't show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:40, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This company has been quoted and referenced in hundreds of mainstream press publications. Here are a 10 more links to international sources which illustrate notability.
Userfy. While the concept of this work is probably notable, I'm not sure any particular company is notable, based on lack of secondary sources. One problem I see is the confusing layout (no lead) and use of the definite article ("The company", rather than 'A company'.) Another is a lack of analysis; quoting or at least citing a secondary source would solve this issue. Finally, we need to see more than name dropping of an idea, person, or company. This isn't the author's fault, it's the annoying habit today of mainstream media to check off a list of ideas and then ... not get to a point. So userfication would allow the author to fine-tune the page, which isn't a bad idea. If it's a concept, that would be easy. If it's a company, it's harder, but not impossible. Bearian (talk) 10:46, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While notability is subjective to some extent, Wikipedia’s guidelines emphasize significant coverage in independent sources as a key determinant.
This is ridiculous. The company is indeed notable having been mentioned and discussed in numerous sources which have been supplied.
The initial claim that "Lack of notability. Two of the sources are not about this comany; the third seems to be a dead link." are not factually correct - they all mention the company and in fact the Washington Post highlighted the company in the cover photo.
Non-notable organization that sponsors scholarships. None of the sources in the article supports WP:NCORP, nor does anything in my WP:BEFORE search except for possibly this expert blog post. Everything else is press releases, trivial mentions, affiliated sources but nothing else that passes the NCORP threshold. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:11, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as creator; modestly notable scholarship is what the org is known for. Perhaps only needs to be one article about both; I merged the article on the scholarship into the one for the institute (though I could see it going the other direction). – SJ +16:50, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can you share which sources meet GNG for the scholarship? Every source you've added in the merged text is affiliated with the Institute or is a primary source. I still don't see WP:SIGCOV. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:21, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The two full-ride scholarships are well known in high school + gifted ed circles because there aren't any others like it; I'll look again for an external review of what exists -- it's mostly catalogs with limited discussion. There does seem to be less written about programs and scholarships for younger children. Summer camps get more visibility; and I think the founder came out of CTY, added a bit of context there. – SJ +19:51, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Not every government official, even political appointees, is inherently notable. Evans is one of those. Coverage is WP:ROUTINE in the context of her official or professional duties, not about Evans as a notable person. There is not WP:SIGCOV to meet WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. Separately, article appears to have been created by a PR firm without WP:DISCLOSEPAY. Longhornsg (talk) 15:20, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:POLITICIAN. Who??? And she served Who??? This reads like a low-level political appointee for multiple Republican Party administrations. Honorary doctorates are not the same as having a doctoral degree. If she served multiple administrations, even as a press secretary, we would know who she was. — Maile (talk) 19:07, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, for now. My first impression on skimming the article is that this is an important, if minor administrator in multiple administrations; the posts named seem to involve a considerable degree of authority, even if they didn't give rise to much notoriety. The fact that she had to have Senate confirmation at least once should weigh heavily in favour of keeping this. While there could stand to be better sources, there is a background sketch from the New York Times in 2003, and she was still important enough to be mentioned and pictured with other officials nearly two decades later. I expect more reliable news sources can be found, although some of the others already cited are probably adequate.
I looked for the guidelines "NPOL #1 and 2" and could not figure out what these referred to, unless they are obsolete former guidelines, in which case they carry no weight in this discussion. I'm not sure this person should even be classified as a "politician", as she doesn't seem to have stood for elected office; this is an administrator. The other arguments made seem to be along the lines of "why should somebody I've never heard of have an article?", which is not a valid reason for deletion, and "having an honorary degree doesn't make someone notable", which is a straw man argument, since nobody claimed that it was evidence of notability; not every fact mentioned in an article has to establish notability. Since the arguments being made for deletion look rather bogus, I'm going with my impression as to what's actually in the article, which is that the person meets our minimum standard for notability. P Aculeius (talk) 11:23, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is not a low level administrator. The position of Administrator for the Office of Electronic Government and Information Technology is the former name of the Federal Chief Information Officer of the United States. Most of the holders of that title have WP articles. I think she could be considered to have held national office, and thus meet WP:NPOL. Honorary doctorates are actually an honor - there are far fewer holders of honorary doctorates than PhDs. She is also an elected Fellow of the National Academy of Public Administration (United States): "Election to the National Academy is considered to be one of the highest honors by those engaged in the study or practice of public administration." The article could do with some editing and reordering of positions. RebeccaGreen (talk) 15:41, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I'd consider that her election as a Fellow of the National Academy of Public Administration would meet WP:NACADEMIC#3 as a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 16:42, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't find any decent sources in English during my WP:BEFORE searches, and the two references [19] and [20] in the corresponding kowiki article 404ed and they didn't seem to be available on the Wayback Machine either. As it stands, the article does not meet WP:SPORTBASIC, though I acknowledge that there may be better sources in Korean language with WP:SIGCOV, in which case I would happily withdraw my nomination. SunloungerFrog (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. 200 K League games is an almost guaranteed notability. However there is an even more notable sports figure also named 김성근. I hope that a Korean speaker/reader contributes here. Geschichte (talk) 17:19, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I think that the sources are from Energy sector and the positions etc. sounds notable in the energy sector. The page exists in 3 more languages and on French Google there's a lot of coverage in reliable sources. Statements in WP:NBIO aligns with the content and sources.NatalieTT (talk) 18:10, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Kayrros. He does not appear to be independently notable. In particular there is a dearth of independent, reliable sources about him as opposed to written by him, quoting him, or mentioning him. The best I found were [21], [22], and [23] which isn't enough for a BLP even when you add a couple more interviews and plenty of business networking profiles. Eluchil404 (talk) 03:00, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
*Keep: Antoine Rostand fulfills the notability criteria under WP:NBIO due to his prominent role in the energy sector and significant coverage in reliable sources. Articles such as Forbes, DotCom Magazine, and mentions in industry-specific trade publications demonstrate his influence and recognition in the field. His leadership at Kayrros and association with global organizations like the World Economic Forum further establish his credibility and notability. Additionally, the existence of the article in multiple languages indicates international interest, reinforcing his significance.--Abhey City (talk) 15:10, 25 January 2025 (UTC) Blocked sock. Jfire (talk) 02:35, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect: to the company as noted. This is the third time in as many years it's come up in AfD, and still nothing substantial has shown up. Not convinced the sources given show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:47, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. It might be worthwhile to undelete the last version of the previous version of the old article (the one that was deleted as a result of the second AfD) so that the sources in that article could be added to the current version. Eastmain (talk • contribs)22:27, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CR (talk) 15:10, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article doesn't meet criteria for organization. Most of the references are about same news of 200 bed expansion. No coverage to describe its notability in neutral and reliable source . Rahmatula786 (talk) 12:30, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – The argument that "most references are about the same news of a 200-bed expansion" is not valid for an AFD or deletion. References are not exclusively for the title but for supporting the article's content. The article meets the criteria outlined in WP:ORG and satisfies the WP:GNG through secondary, reliable sources. This hospital operates as a non-profit, charity-based organization, focusing on cancer treatment and contributing significantly to society. It clearly meets WP:N guidelines.
(Note: This appears to be a targeted edit. If a user selects random articles for review, it is statistically improbable for the same contributor to repeatedly target multiple articles in a short time span (e.g., minutes or hours). In this case, the contributor initially applied a G11 tag, which was rejected, and immediately escalated to an AFD. Such actions indicate a lack of adherence to Wikipedia’s policies and guidelines. The article has existed for over six months, undergone multiple revisions by various editors, and includes well-sourced, verifiable content. This suggests that the contributor should thoroughly review policies and article sources before taking further actions. The behavior demonstrates intent to enforce personal judgment rather than following established Wikipedia policies.)
Reply to editor:I’d like to clarify that my nomination of the article for deletion was not personal in any way. My concerns about the article stemmed solely from its content and adherence to Wikipedia's notability guidelines for organizations. When I first came across the article, I noticed that it did not appear to meet the criteria for inclusion, and many of the sources cited were repetitive and primarily in Nepali media. This led me to question whether the article met Wikipedia's standards of significant coverage by independent, reliable sources.
I want to emphasize that my intention was never to target you or your contributions. I noticed from your edit history that you have significant experience writing articles, particularly about films, actors, and related topics, which made me curious about your interest in this specific subject. When I saw the draft of the Binay Shah article (who appears to be related to this organization) and its eventual publication, I decided to monitor these articles to ensure compliance with Wikipedia's policies.
I hope you understand that my actions were motivated by a commitment to maintaining Wikipedia’s standards, not by any personal issue. If you feel strongly about the article's inclusion, I encourage you to participate in the deletion discussion and present evidence of notability with reliable, independent sources. The platform is open for all editors to contribute their views, and the decision will ultimately reflect a consensus.
I hope this clears up any misunderstanding. Let’s focus on constructive discussions to ensure Wikipedia remains a reliable and impartial resource.
I respectfully contest the proposed deletion of the Tshela Airport (FZAH) article. While I understand concerns about notability, this article is actually more verifiable than many other Congolese airport entries. I will try to make this argument with the following points:
1. Finding reliable data on airports in the DRC is extremely difficult. However, many airstrips remain listed in aviation databases despite being long abandoned.
2. Many other Congolese airports lack verification, yet they remain on Wikipedia - for example Inkisi Airport, FZAS, where at the given coordinates no trace of an airport can be seen.
3. Unlike those articles, Tshela Airport’s existence is historically verified. A 1967 U.S. Defense Mapping Agency map confirms its location, making this article more reliable than entries for airports that no longer exist at their listed coordinates.
4. The (still active!) ICAO-code FZAH underlines its former importance. Even if abandoned, its past role and the exact location could help research about the history of Tshela or infrastructure in the Bas-Congo region.
Deleting this article would remove one of the few sources accurately documenting the airport. Instead, a note can clarify that the airport is no longer operational.
I believe Tshela Airport deserves to remain on Wikipedia as a documented piece of history rather than be removed due to a lack of recent activity.
Delete: a WP:BEFORE search shows no significant coverage in reliable sources, which is the key criterion in WP:GNG. The only mentions are in database sites all repeating the same incorrect coordinates. The claim in the article that the coordinates from a 1967 map correspond to traces of a runway in current imagery is unsourced and would appear to be original research. Even if this claim could be verified in a reliable source, verifiability does not guarantee inclusion. Rosbif73 (talk) 16:37, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I cannot understand why my specific article is subjected to those enormously strict standards. If this would generally be the case - fine. However, the majority of articles about small airfields in the DRC contain even less information, featuring even fewer sources. You can verify this by checking the List of airports in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Dozens of articles are based on map data - ironically some even on OpenStreetMap data which I personally added years ago, as I am quite familiar with the DRC. I will make a last attempt, stating that...
...notability shouldn't depend on whether an airport is still in use. Many historical airports in the U.S. and Europe have Wikipedia articles.
...Wikipedia has dozens of articles on airstrips in the DRC with no historical verification.
...The Congo deserves better documentation. If historical infrastructure is erased from Wikipedia, it only reinforces the lack of accessible information on the country.
I understand the arguments for deletion of my article. However, there is no coherence in their application. If the article I wrote is actually removed, several other would need to go, too - which I do not want. An airport featured in the official ICAO-database should be eligible for a Wikipedia article. Ianp727 (talk) 18:46, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
References are mostly of brief primary account (interviews), and the rest do not center around her. WP:NEWSORGINDIA might apply to some sources. Overall, the sources do not establish the grounds for a standalone article on this individual yet. X (talk) 10:52, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
She might pass WP:NACTOR for her roles in Sunflower and The Family Man for example, as the bylined presentation of this interview in The Hindustan Times states. A lot of interviews in more or less reliable media outlets are an indication that she could be considered a notable person. If NEWSORGINDIA applies (and how exactly please and to which sources precisely?) to sources on the page, the very general recommendations in that paragraph in an information page do not apply to all sources and should not prevail over the specific notability guideline. So (weak) Keep; Draftify if judged insufficient, please.-Mushy Yank. 14:08, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete I'm not seeing evidence that she passes WP:NACTOR. The article says "she played a parallel lead" in Agar Tum Saath Ho, but she appears at the end of the cast list in that article. She's not listed at all in The Family Man or in Manikarnika: The Queen of Jhansi. I'm not sure how significant her role is in Sunflower - it's not mentioned in the plot summaries, though they may not be accurate. But even if it is a significant role, that would still be only one, not multiple. RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:32, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep Her role in several distinguished films substantiates her qualifications as an actress. But this article needs more substantial coverage. Bakhtar40 (talk) 10:31, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I have added a couple of short news items as sources, which should go some way to establish her notability with respect to Wikipedia, and I've moved the grg-supercentenarians.org links - which I would put more in the class of database / stats sites, like Soccerway is to football - to be external links. On the wider, non-Wikipedia, meaning of "notability" I'd say, actually, that to be the oldest living person in a country is not a far-fetched claim to notability. I might do a more focused search against Italian sources to see if there are additional ones that might flesh out the biographical stub a little more. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 16:09, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep there is almost nothing in this article however the article was deleted immediately after it was created then put unto afd ID say give the creator some time to build the article up before we rush it into afd. after I added a couple sources I believe the subject now passes GNG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wwew345t (talk • contribs) 13:32, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that not every supercentenarian is notable enough to have an article but as this one is the oldest living person in Italy i feel like we should give people some time to flesh out the article with more sources before suggesting there arent enough to establish notability Wwew345t (talk) 13:38, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as suggested. Of course a 'supercentarian' will genereate a certain amount of passing press coverage. This is not the kind of lasting covererage necessary to establish notability.TheLongTone (talk) 15:35, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Its not just "passing coverage" she has bios on both the gerntolgy research group and Longeviquest the two biggest sources when it comes to supercentenarians the sources establish notability Wwew345t (talk) 16:14, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I have also added some sources and info to the article. There is coverage over time (I've so far found some from 2018), and in national newspapers as well as regional and local. She meets WP:GNG. RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:55, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Ambassadors of nations with populations over 1 million should have an article. Iran has a population of 86,000,000 and the article is about their rep at the UN.Arbeiten8 (talk) 16:09, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete individual aircraft downings in a conflict are incredibly rarely notable. There are some circumstances that would make them notable (they were carrying the PM, the first downing of the stealth fighter) but this certainly isn't one of them. It's a routine plane shot down during an active conflict. Canterbury Tailtalk15:56, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No lasting effects of the downing, no changes to operational orders, nothing of a lasting consequence. Could be a brief mention in an article about the war. Oaktree b (talk) 17:31, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sources presented for this actor do not show that they meet WP:NACTOR. Thie foreign language Wikipedia article is similar to this and with just about three sources. Before search did not show anything beyond trivial mentions in what look like gossip blogs. Mekomo (talk) 13:52, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are multiple source about Ikmal involvement in Malaysian cinema. He already appear in Indonesia TV, thats why i know him and also from Soloz: Game of Life Ryan Nambou (talk) 16:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw nomination (see below). I struggled to find sources with significant coverage during my WP:BEFORE searches, and those in the related articles in other languages did not seem especially helpful. I therefore submit that notability is not established, though I'd be happy to withdraw my nomination if suitable sources, maybe in not in English, can be found and added to the article. SunloungerFrog (talk) 13:33, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, if the article can be properly sourced and referenced, I would be happy to withdraw my nomination. I just couldn't find any reliable sources with significant coverage. If you can, that's brilliant! Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 14:05, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw nomination - thank you Mushy Yank for finding those sources. I've done the name change in the article and will do a page move once AfD is closed. It would be nice to have more sources with more significant coverage but these will suffice for the time being. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 09:46, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – The user initially tagged this article with G11, citing the following reasons: "Bone marrow Transplant centre in Nepal was established in a government hospital (CIVIL) by the Government of Nepal. The editor is trying to promote the individual with misinformation that is not supported by neutral sources. Contributions and career sections are filled with such information." After the G11 tag was rejected, the user immediately took the article to AFD, claiming: "Sources are not neutral, insufficient coverage, promotional tone." These two actions reflect inconsistent reasoning and suggest an attempt to misuse Wikipedia's tools.
Supportive evidence:
The statement about the Bone Marrow Transplant center does not claim it was established by Dr. Binaya Shah. The original sentence in the article states: "Dr. Shah played a pivotal role in establishing Nepal's first Bone Marrow Transplant (BMT) center, which was set up at the Civil Service Hospital................" This is not original research and is clearly supported by the provided reference (reference link which is already given in article - https://www.khasokhas.com/2683#gsc.tab=0).
The user's actions show immediate and differing approaches without valid reasoning. This behavior strongly indicates targeted action rather than random article review. Random reviews rarely involve the same contributor repeatedly targeting the same article and same contributor different article multiple times within a short duration (minutes or hours), further highlighting this as a deliberate search-and-target action.
The article does not violate WP:GNG or WP:BLP guidelines. It meets notability requirements with adequate sourcing, and the content adheres to Wikipedia’s policies. The user should ensure proper evaluation of sources and policies before taking further actions.Endrabcwizart (talk) 09:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't meet WP notability. Subject is a former local congregational rabbi (12 years) with no major organisational titles other than a term as president in a local rabbi group. Per existing sources, subject only appear notable due to his fumbled testimony in a royal Commission, this incident led to his synagogue firing him. (Possibly this is notable due to his lawsuit against media coverage?). Other sources relate to family squabbles or local gossip about donors withdrawing support. Overall, there's not enough here. I also note that a 2007 prod result was to delete the page. דברי.הימים (talk) 06:35, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here we have another puzzle. There is no question at all that people called this place "Wegan"; the church still does. But that church and the short-lived post office are the only evidence I can find. The church is now isolated and has been so as far back as I can see; the post office came into being late and lasted only four years, closing earlier than most in the region, which leads me to surmise that the demand wasn't there, and therefore neither was the population. Baker only mentions the post office, and the county history we have is dated before the post office opened, and makes no mention of it nor of anyone named Wegand. I'm inclined to chalk this one up as jsut a post office, but maybe others can do better. Mangoe (talk) 12:52, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The history of St. Paul's Lutheran Church at Wegan may be traced from February 6, 1854. During that year several families then attending worship services at St. John Evangelical Church discussed the idea of forming a new congregation. Those families had moved and settled in the northern regions of Grassy Fork Township. Pastor Johann Sauer led the group in its efforts to bring about this change. On March 17, 1857 seventeen men signed the constitution to complete the process. The Lutheran congregation at Wegan became the second group to form its own church. Indeed, it was the second to be spawned from the mother (Sauers) in Jackson County.
— Noblitt, Loren W. (1997). A History of Jackson County Churches. Jackson County Historical Society., p. 131
Noblitt then goes on to talk about schooling consolidating in Brownstown in 1966. Bowen's 1904 Biographical Record of Bartholomew and Jackson Counties, Indiana on p.741 mentions "the Wegan church, in Grassy Fork township, southeast of Brownstown, the official center of Jackson county" and on p.728 talks of someone buying land "near the present hamlet of Wegan, in Grassy Fork township". Sad to say, the only other decent-appearing source turned out to say on its cover that it was a work of fiction. Uncle G (talk) 14:28, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Coverage is mostly focused on Zulily, Cavens lacks notability independent of Zulily. Fails WP:GNG. It would be better if we redirect this to Zulily's article. Gheus (talk) 11:44, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article Franz Kafka says that Franz's relationship with his father Hermann had a great deal of influence on his works. Doesn't that count towards Hermann's notability? JIP | Talk21:38, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Influence on his work is a reason why Hermann should be part of Franz Kafka's article, but it does not make him a notable person for his standalone article. FromCzech (talk) 06:25, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep inclusion in the Financial Times and the Mercator Institute for China Studies shows that this page is worthy of inclusion on wiki. I find the "routine coverage in industry publications" comment questionable. What is "routine" about the coverage? Why does wiki discriminate against "industry publications"? Shouldn't we be promoting the Category:MEMS factories instead of deleting of one out of four articles in it? After all, if a $90 billion revenue company like TSMC is in the business of MEMS we should promote understanding of MEMS. Stickhandler (talk) 03:49, 25 January 2025 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Stickhandler (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist in hopes to get more participation here. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America100010:03, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The commissions vary significantly, so this article primarily provides an overview (which is currently outdated and incomplete). It would be more effective to present this information by category or in a list format. Dajasj (talk) 08:53, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article frames the "Kingdom of Malwa" as a standalone entity, but it primarily details the Paramara dynasty, which already has a dedicated article. The Paramara rule over Malwa is extensively covered there, making this article redundant. Article citation Sen(1999) refer to the Paramara dynasty, not a distinct "Kingdom of Malwa" separate from the dynasty which contradicting some sources in the article. The infobox lists the kingdom lifespan as 800–1304 and the narrative begins with the Paramaras as Rashtrakuta vassals in 800 and claims independence only in 947. This conflates the dynasty origins with the kingdom founding, misleadingly extending its timeline (see main article Paramara dynasty(948–1305) for better understanding. ) Further specific claims ("...until 948 when it declared its independence under the House of Paramara...") lack direct citations. References like Prasad, History of Mediaeval India and Austin, City of Legends are tertiary sources with broad, non-specific quotes that do not directly support the article detailed chronology (eg. battles, reign dates). Critical events, such as Siyaka II sack of Manyakheta (972) or Bhoja alliance with the Cholas, are unsupported by the cited sources. Claims like Malwa becoming a "province of the Gurjara kingdom" (c. 1150) are oversimplified. The Paramaras faced intermittent subjugation but retained autonomy, which the article misrepresents as direct provincial status. The Paramara dynasty article, as the "Kingdom of Malwa" here is indistinguishable from the dynasty rule. The article fails to meet the criteria for a standalone position. It is better to delete this POV-fork, as it contains original chronological synthesis and duplicates existing coverage. NXcryptoMessage08:39, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I agree with nominator's assessment, the sources cited in the article state that Kingdom of Malwa and Parmara dynasty are the same and only use "Kingdom of Malwa" when referring to the Parmara dynasty, we don't need a duplicate article on the same topic, especially given the issues of synthesis with this article. - Ratnahastin (talk) 12:56, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: All kingdoms have seperate articles for dynasties and the respective kingdoms. Specific issues can easily be fixed. You don't delete an entire article simply because it has a couple of issues. The Paramara dynasty ruled many other kingdoms other than Malwa as well. Why not delete the article on the Austrian Empire as an article on the House of Habsburg exists?
@PadFoot2008 comparison to the Austrian Empire and the House of Habsburg is not apt here. "Kingdom of Malwa" as presented in the article is indistinguishable from the Paramara dynasty rule. The article does not provide evidence of a distinct political or administrative identity for the "Kingdom of Malwa" that would justify its separation from the Paramara dynasty article. NXcryptoMessage13:55, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Once again, Paramara dynasty is a dynasty. Only stuff related to the dynasty should be present there. There should be a seperate article for the kingdom ruled by them. All kingdoms and their ruling dynasties have seperate articles on Wikipedia. PadFoot (talk) 18:43, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I believe it is a poor approach to arrange Indian dynasties and empires in a manner similar to Chinese history. Well, that's reminds me of JJP(blocked sock), who often provided similar reasoning, as seen here. NXcryptoMessage02:39, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And why must you think that it is a poor approach? And how in the world does it have anything to do with Chinese history of all things? All histories including that of Europe have seperate articles for kingdoms and dynasties. PadFoot (talk) 04:40, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have absolutely no problem in fixing the problems you mentioned above, and would be more than willing to fix any issues concerning the article. PadFoot (talk) 04:41, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've now fixed all the issues raised above. I acknowledge that it was a mistake on my part to add content without proper sourcing, and I apologise to NXcrypto for it, but none of the content was unsourced or OR. They were all summarised from the dynasty article, individual monarch articles and from Sen (1999) mostly. All the issues raised above including duplication and sourcing have been fixed. The chronology has been fixed as well. PadFoot (talk) 05:32, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You say above that the early members of the dynasty who were vassals didn't rule the Kingdom of Malwa as it was formed in 947–8, and yet here you say that two are synonyms. Additionally, there are numerous branches of Paramara dynasties which existed long after the fall of the kingdom of Malwa. How in the world are they synonymous then? PadFoot (talk) 06:55, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Above, I pointed out the incorrect dating with this statement:.... infobox lists the kingdom's lifespan as 800–1304, while the narrative begins with the Paramaras as Rashtrakuta vassals in 800 and claims independence only in 947. This conflates the dynasty origins with the kingdom founding, misleadingly extending its timeline (see the main article Paramara dynasty (948–1305) for better understanding).... I was highlighting the mistake in the dating, not making any claims myself. Anyway, you have now corrected the dating. NXcryptoMessage08:53, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete : Another fancruft. "Kingdom of Malwa" is redundant as it mirrors the Paramara dynasty page. Sources treat "Kingdom of Malwa" as synonymous with the dynasty rather than an independent political entity and the Paramara dynasty article already covers the subject comprehensively, this article serves no distinct purpose. Needs to BLOWITUP this trash. CelesteQuill (talk) 06:39, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Maquilapolis. As an associate professor of art, focused on making and curating art rather than on publishing art scholarship, most criteria of WP:PROF appear out of reach to him, leaving only WP:NARTIST or WP:GNG. But that would require in-depth coverage of him or his works, published independently. Thus, for instance, this news story about one of his projects doesn't count as independent, because it's in the student newspaper of his university. I also found independently published stories quoting him about the greying of the Mission [24] but they don't have the necessary depth of coverage of him. His film appears notable, though, and there is some discussion in that article of his role in creating it, so I think it would make a good redirect target. —David Eppstein (talk) 02:26, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not a single relialbe independnet source to meet WN ANYBIO or GNG. Generally not notable businesswoman/ columnist. Removed some dead or not related links Cinder painter (talk) 08:03, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I do not entirely agree that the links that have been removed are unrelated. The article's history shows quite a bit was removed before this was posted in AfD. DaffodilOcean (talk) 18:00, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Why were sources removed? Dead links could be rescued using the wayback machine. Also, sources that shows that her books were reviewed by independent outlets were removed before this nomination. I do not have an opinion on the notability of this topic at this time. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia19:10, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Did you search Ukrainian language sources? The player is Ukrainian, Counter-strike is pretty big there, so I'd be surprised if there's wasn't some level of coverage since he's been on the roster of two-major winning rosters. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions02:18, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The whole book written on Battle of Kaiser-e-Hind we can add reference from there.
Ahmed, Habib (2015). The battle of Hussainiwala and Qaiser-i-Hind: the 1971 war (1 ed.). Karachi: Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-906472-4 PWC786 (talk) 15:23, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting after a failed bundled nom of TMBG songs. The article mostly cites primary sources such as interviews which do not establish notability. The secondary sources cited here only discuss the song briefly, and I cannot find any RSes that discuss the song in-depth. The article is sourced okay, but it does not pass WP:GNG, so it should be merged into They Might Be Giants (album). — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs)19:11, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist, looks like Merge or Keep. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk!07:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
merge to Gold Line (Doha Metro). There's nothing in this article that couldn't be better presented as part of the rather minimal list within the line article, and this appears to be true for the other stations on the line. Mangoe (talk) 13:02, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings, Miminity! Just came to my notice today that both the articles were put on deletion. I have made few changes to the twoarticles. I also did some changes to this article, fearing it may fall under WP:REDUNFORK. Let me know your thoughts on it. Thank you and have a great day! VizDsouz (talk) 03:31, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per MOS:TVEPISODELIST (For very lengthy series, generally 80+ episodes, it may be necessary to break the episode list into individual season or story arc lists. and If this is done, the main list of episodes should still contain the entire episode list, appropriately sectioned, without the episode summaries.) Beyblade X currently has 64 episodes and will eventually have 80 episodes. Media Mender📬✍🏻10:14, 20 January 2025 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Media Mender (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
Keep: Currently at 64 episodes, the episode count is expected to rise beyond 80. For such a series, having these two articles will be reliable in the future. VizDsouz (talk) 05:19, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, such an article already exists in the German Wiki. This doesn't mean that the Electrum is notable but at least shows a demand for this. I also wish to translate the article to other languages that I know. The point of the article is to have a more neutral information about the critical software.
Even after 16 years since release of Bitcoin there are not so many of wallets available.
The ideal wallet also should be open source, community driven and cross platform. Current options are:
Bitcoin Core (Qt) which downloads the full blockchain, too complicated for most users.
Cake Wallet which is based on Electron and the Electrum which is fully cross platform. It even available in PlayStore and F-Droid.
The Electrum exist since 2011 and very well known. It introduced many innovations like simplified validation, seed phrases and Lighting. It also a base for the official NameCoin wallet.
Delete without actual third-party RS coverage. The book sources may be RSes (Packt is a dubious churn-en-out publisher) but they are only 10- and 11-year-old cites to the notion Electrum is "continuously improving", which would probably require a more recent RS to claim. The rest is non-RSes, primary sources and OR. There's nothing here. Is there any solid third-party RS coverage? Not claims there might tentatively be in the tufure - David Gerard (talk) 09:41, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you can find an RS as an example? I mean, there are not so many books which is probably expected for a software. But else would be good as RS? The first Google page shows many reviews, including a popular CoinMarketCap, ZoneBitcoin etc.
In one video I heard the "Electrum is used for 10% of all Bitcoin transfers" which is a big argument for notability. I didn't found the stats to confirm.
Please note that many users can't find a good and trustworthy sources and starting to use some proprietary wallets with dark patterns. I myself was overwhelmed by amount of them. But also users may found a phishing Electrum clone.
That's why it's so important to have an article about the critical software here.
If there are not enough of recent books that mentions Electrum then this is a not so big reason for deletion of the article as for me. Stokito (talk) 11:09, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting after a failed bundled nom of TMBG songs. This article was created in 2006 and does not hold up to contemporary notability standards, failing WP:GNG. The article is a very short stub that only cites two primary sources. The song did chart, and there are a few RSes that discuss the song (e.g. the ABC); however, none of them have enough coverage for a standalone article. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs)19:03, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist. Is there a suitable Redirect target article? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk!07:37, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Very strongly oppose: Article is fairly well sourced and I, for one, am tired of the "PRIMARY SOURCES IS BAD!!1!1!" attitude. I think it's common sense to say that the information contained in the sources themselves should dictate credibility, not whether they're primary or secondary. —theMainLogan (t•c) 18:07, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. A quick google scholar search for "Singdarin" comes up with 17 results, and a google search finds only 124 results (with similar results ommited). If Singdarin is a thing, it is safe to assume that the good sources are not in English. Machine translation is pretty useless with this word. Anyone who knows Mandarin, Malay or Tamil might be able to find some better sources.
Keep. Denying the existence of Singdarin is no different to denying that Singlish exists. An overwhelming number of Mandarin-speaking Singaporeans use Singdarin in colloquial speech and I find it peculiar that you have not noticed this despite claiming to have lived in Singapore for a decade—which I suppose its possible, if you had mostly just lived among other expats/immigrants and not interacted much with the locals. Many ethnic Chinese Singaporeans are not known to be particularly fluent in Mandarin as compared to their Chinese/Taiwanese counterparts due to their country's multicultural background as well as their huge immersion in English being their main language, which led to the rise of Singdarin. 175.197.10.59 (talk) 19:55, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually the redirect needs to be restored, so I guess I should !vote Redirect. Is there a better way to handle G11-deletable material that overwrites a redirect? Helpful Raccoon (talk) 06:39, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I came across this last night on NPP and was going to come back to it today, after seeing there was a redirect involved when I went to the talk page and ended up on a different article! (Wanted to wait until I had a clearer head!) Redirect the article, per Helpful Raccoon. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!12:43, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Taabii,
I was planning to make further changes, including adding news and articles to this, but you have requested its removal without giving any time for discussion. This suggests that you are promoting individuals like Repest and Seril Keler on Wikipedia, and encouraging the misuse of such a reputable and growing platform to rank them on the first page of search results. 182.77.60.22 (talk) 16:07, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Remember to log in when editing and commenting. Wikipedia does not promote anyone, see WP:NOTPROMO. Articles created for promotional purposes are not appropriate here, and Wikipedia's criteria of who should have an article are stated at WP:Notability. It is unfortunate that you have the same name as a notable criminal, but this is not a problem that Wikipedia can solve. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 22:59, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i admit my mistakes, but I was about to fix them as soon as possible. However, all of you started commenting one after another, pushing for the page to be deleted." Ravinderkumarpriest (talk) 03:42, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia has little tolerance for promotional editing. It is strongly discouraged for people to write articles about themselves due to the inherent conflict of interest. You should definitely read WP:Autobiography#Creating an article about yourself. If you still want to write an article about yourself, you should create an article in draftspace and submit it for review, making sure it meets WP:Notability and doesn't read like self-promotion. (The vast majority of people do not meet Wikipedia's notability criteria.) I saw you created Draft:Ravinder Kumar Pandit but didn't include any text. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 04:41, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TNT - I feel sorry for my student who was named Jordan Marsh, but he can't make his own Wikipedia article. Right now this article is a chimera of two different living persons' articles, neither of whom is notable. Bearian (talk) 16:15, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don's see any reliable sources to provide notability. Note that the Yahoo source is from NewMediaWire, which seems to specifically write PR articles. Janhrach (talk) 18:34, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
After taking a more thorough look, I am less convinced that this meets either the general notability guidelines or website-specific notability guidelines. Everything from APWG is peer-reviewed, but both articles from that conference only count as one source. The other scholarly sources either have the same authors (so again count as one source) or only have trivial coverage. I can't access the kernelmag.dailydot.com source, but based on how it's used, it doesn't look like it has significant coverage. The Ungagged source, which I also can't access, probably isn't independent. Coverage by Paris Martineau is insignificant. If both Tech Business News and Search Engine Round Table (aka Barry Schwartz) were reliable sources, then BlackHatWorld would meet notability guidelines. However, I do not believe this to be the case. So, regrettably, I am changing to delete. PrinceTortoise (he/him • poke) 04:22, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – This website is known to promote a lot of online scams, and it's been getting worse in recent years according to a 2024 HackerNoon article that I've just added. For the purpose of educating people about the history and reputation of this "scammer's paradise" it might be a good idea to keep the article for now. --Honos582 (talk) 10:08, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion should be relisted soon. @Honos582: I agree with you that the article is useful. The question we're trying to determine is whether BlackHatWorld is notable according to Wikipedia's definition of notable, which tends to be a higher bar than the ordinary definition of "notable". For an explanation of why these guidelines exist, see this explanation. We don't want to pass along gossip about a topic – we want a balanced overview of the topic. To do this, we need at least two (though preferably three) reliable sources that have significant coverage of the topic and are independent of the subject. All of these criteria must be met by multiple sources.
We have found several independent sources that have significant coverage, but it is my opinion that only two of them are reliable. Here comes a rather lengthy analysis of every source that I can I access that I believe to have arguably significant coverage. I apologize for its length.
In my analysis, every study with Sadia Afroz as a co-author counts as one source because these studies will all have the same bias (and so don't make our understanding of BlackHatWorld more balanced). A lot of these studies are published through the IEEE and claim to be peer-reviewed. Coverage is significant.
One source is an opinion piece published in Tech Business News. I can't find a discussion of the source on Wikipedia, but it has the word "blog" in the url. Here is that website's policy on contributions. I don't think this source is reliable for statements of fact. At best, it is a newspaper blog.
Comment The best ref I can find is a couple of pages about the UltraSatan in Jamie Lendino's 2019 book Faster than Light: The Atari ST and the 16-bit Revolution. There are passing mentions in a couple of European computer magazines in retrocomputing articles, but I didn't see anything else in-depth. Adam Sampson (talk) 10:39, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
May not pass WP:NCORP, was dubiously created after related Mr. Dude article was AfD'ed, with its content merged into this article. Might be better to merge everything into "Tourism in Portland, Oregon." PlotinusEnjoyer (talk) 05:00, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It's a refbombed article created specifically as a spin-out of another article at AfD which fails WP:NCORP, specifically the WP:AUD prong (as do a lot of Oregon articles, which is why we have more articles on random businesses in Oregon than any other jurisdiction in the world) but also with regards to significant coverage. The best articles are just local reporting on advertising buys. I agree this could be merged to a specific article on Portland tourism. SportingFlyerT·C06:58, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per GNG and HEY. Not sure why I couldn't be afforded even 24 hours to expand the article, which clearly covers a notable topic and now has 50+ reliable sources. I'm also not sure WP:BEFORE was completed, as searching "Travel Portland" at The Oregonian archives from 1987 to present via the Multnomah County Library yields 168 returns and a search for "Portland Oregon Visitors Association" (the same organization's former name) yields 550 returns. There are additional returns in the library's pre-1987 database. Of course some of these are passing mentions or reports released by the organization, but there's in-depth coverage in Oregon's paper of record spanning decades. There's still more to add, but already the article includes details about history, operations (including leadership, visitor centers and office locations), funding, specific tourism campaigns, and other funded projects. I can at least make sense of the nomination to delete Mr. Dude, but there's obviously sufficient coverage to support this standalone article. I would ask other editors to allow more time for this entry to be expanded and improved. ---Another Believer(Talk)17:02, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment (keep or merge) I take it from what Another Believer says that the coverage in The Oregonian meets the WP:NCORP requirement for significant, independent, reliable, and secondary coverage, but another source meeting all four criteria is required, though it needn’t be regional or statewide as is the O. If such coverage exists (whether referenced in the article or not), then keep; otherwise merge to Tourism in Portland, Oregon. Whether a portion of the information comes from an article since deleted by consensus is immaterial, as is any speculation about the motives for creating this article. YBG (talk) 05:06, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Spanish wiki has several recent references about a failed audition for The X Factor, so she still seems to be a recognised name. And notability is not temporary. PamD08:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can't find any sources about it, rather than by it or mentioning some person as being from the institute. Only source in the article is the organization's own website. (Note when searching that it used to be the Haas Institute). Rusalkii (talk) 03:36, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not much secondary coverage of this department beyond UC Berkeley-related sources, doesn't seem to meet GNG criteria. Jordano5318:59, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ORG non-commercial organization that does not operate on a national scale or have significant coverage from multiple unrelated sources (many sources are from UMSL or the UMSL student newspaper). The scope of UMSL Student Government Association is limited to the students of UMSL. Similar concerns were brought up in a 2008 AfD discussion but no notable sources were added.
Delete Every school has a student government, and student organization are typically not notable. The whole article is only relevant to members. Reywas92Talk15:08, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hall only seems to lend any notability from the resident basketball club. A Google search only shows sources with passing mentions (the main focus being the club). Aydoh8[contribs]02:42, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Google searches aren't typically enough of a before search for Serbian articles: for instance, the "correct" name to look up would be "Hala kraj Morave" or "Hala Borca kraj Morave" and not "Borac Hall" and this does bring up coverage like [37] (specifically on the arena), [38] (reconstruction), [39] (discussing new ownership and how it is a famous sports arena), [40] (several mentions), [41] (decent mention). Note I stopped there, more sources almost certainly exist. SportingFlyerT·C07:16, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As SportingFlyer already mentioned, this article does bring up more searches if you search different terms so definitely worth keeping. ✨Боки✨💬📝07:48, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]